• CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    When did ivermectin become the cure all? COVID? Because this is beyond stupid.

    I know it started with COVID, but to become a wonder drug…

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      12 days ago

      I swear, if somehow dog turds got a “fight the man” aura about them there’d be people claiming dog turds cure everything.

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      Scam artists can sell it without a prescription as long as they’re calling it an animal product. It’s sold off the counter at any feed store. This is always the scam with these claims it’s ‘‘it cures cancer THEY just don’t want you to know about it!’’ Then they sell you a huge amount of it at a huge markup. This is everything from Monavie (an aqci berry juice), vitamin Mega doses, some completely insignificant ‘‘supplements’’ (I knew a guy selling ox bile capsules with almost no oil or extracts mixed in), then you have all manner of crystals, jade eggs, food processing leftovers like apricot pits, inert nonsense. And I’m not even really mad about it because it mostly ripps off rich idiots like Mel and Joe. These idiots take the same meds from their doctor as everyone else, then ALSO take the snake oil and are convinced the snake oil worked. Joe took a vit C mega dose when he was also taking meds from his doctor for Covid, and he’s SURE the Vit C did something. It’s like how if you have really worn out tires on a car that when you get new tires the mileage gets noticeably better, but then you think ‘‘tire store change tire = 20% lower mph’’ so you take your car back the next day and ask them to change the tires 4 more times because you think it will make your car have -100% gas consuption. All these meds CAN improve your immune system response by removing parasites if you have them, eliminate vit deficiencys if you have them, or remove other micro nutrient deficiencies, all work IF you have the issue to begin with, and studies show the improvement, but taking 1000x the dose of Vit C is just making your pee insanely vit rich, once the deficiency is resolved your body dumps the excess.

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        it mostly ripps off rich idiots like Mel and Joe

        Not at all. People who can barley afford their medications see these as cheaper alternatives and will often use these instead.

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      12 days ago

      But they’ll kick and scream and run away from the actual medical miracle with a medically tested and proven vaccine.

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        11 days ago

        I think they’re just nostalgic for polio and widespread TB. Maybe cholera too.

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          11 days ago

          The good old days of having kids and just knowing chances are stacked against most of them making it past toddler age.

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    What is this obsession some people have with ivermectin? They don’t believe in the moon landings but they think ivermectin has magic powers.

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    Steve Jobs, an otherwise very intelligent and successful guy, got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and instead of jumping right on treating it instead let it go and sought out all sorts of “natural” cures. Well it became terminal and he admitted that if he had treated it at the start it was in an early enough stage where he likely would’ve survived. There is a trait in some smart people to think they are experts on everything.

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      12 days ago

      Tfw you distrust the scientific establishment and take health into your own hands to stick it to the man. But then you realize you’re the man.

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        Tfw you distrust the scientific establishment

        While selling high tech products that depend on decades of scientific advancement to even make them possible.

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      For a soul-crushing perfectionist slave-driver asshole, Jobs had quite a few fluffy New Age beliefs. It always seemed a bit incongruous.

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    Sorry to the people dealing with the fires in LA area but I have to admit that I laughed hard when I heard Mel Gibson’s house burnt down during this interview. Absolutely hilarious to me.

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      I dunno how the hell I could tell from back in the day, watching movies he was in, that I couldn’t trust him. Just something about the way he acts. I can’t put my finger on it.

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        There were hints. Dude played Mad Max and the loose-cannon crazy cop in Lethal Weapon. Is it acting or maybe he was born with it?

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          And interactions with women, just… He seemed like a scoffer. Scoffing at women. You know? I don’t respect scoffers who scoff unnecessarily.

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    let’s hope everyone who still listens to Joe Bogan follows Mel G’s advice when they get cancer.

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      Yes and it treats fungal infections in tree frogs. I’m not trying to say that these medicines work the way that Gibson is saying they do, but the whole “horse dewormer” talking point is dishonest as it makes it out like these medicines have only a single use. I doubt ivermectin treats covid or whatever. But anytime someone just throws out these minimizing points as if it’s impossible to use things in more than one way only makes me doubt the validity of their claims.

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        Having more than one use is irrelevant as to whether it is efficacious and safe in a specific other use.

        I doubt ivermectin treats covid or whatever.

        It doesn’t, any more than hitting your patella with a lug wrench treats covid.

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    There were so many calls to “Let Mel come back,” promising that his outbursts weren’t a real problem anymore and he was on the way to recovery. Nope. Don’t believe that shit. Second chances are dead now, thanks to cunts like him and these other fucks that have squandered the goodwill of the people. Gibson isn’t done doing harm. He will be a piece of shit until he dies, which can’t come soon enough. Fuck him and the entire tribe of fuckwads that spout the same and similar nonsense. They are a blight on humanity.

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    It’s like these people got trolled by 4chan and believed every single word they said.

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    Why can’t they take like acute doses of actual poison? Why is it always this bullshit? Don’t be a pussy, drink the bleach, bitch!