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    What the fuck is with this thread being overrun with dickheads? Is this the breaking point, has Lemmy reached critical mass?

    The image represents how capitalism uses the myth of scarcity. There’s a bed there, and there’s a human being sleeping on the ground. The lie is that there isn’t enough to go around; that somebody has to go without.

    That’s bullshit. We have everything.

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      The message is that you deserve nothing and must earn everything, not that there isn’t enough to go around.

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        That’s not the message either. There are homeless shelters, mental and health services, and affordable housing being priotized all over.

        Necessities are in large free to those who need them. Nice to haves and luxury beds are not.

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          There are homeless shelters, mental and health services, and affordable housing being priotized all over.

          But not in sufficient quantity to address need. Demand fsr, far outstrips supply.

          “Free” is irrelevant when it’s unavailable.

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        Well you dont deserve anything that someone else has made…

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          Then go live in the fucking wood like your caveman ancestors so you can truly live of everything you made yourself.

          Society is built on the shoulders of those before them, that they themselves built on the shoulders of those before them.

          Stop being a dick and go help someone in your community, you will probably learn a thing or two.

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            If someone creates something to trade it for goods and services, thats fine, even if that means its free at the point of consumption.

            If someone creates something for their own reasons, you have no entitlement to it. Please try to be less emotional with your responses, this is a discussion platform meme page after all.

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              “Their own reasons”

              Homie, the word your looking for is “profit”. And it has nothing to do with helping society. It’s about hoarding wealth.

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                Found the capitalist.

                People create things all the time for their own reasons that have nothing to do with profit. Some people create things for fun. For some, it’s called having a hobby.

                Grandmothers knitting mittens, for example.

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              Your initial point is that no one deserves what someone else did. My counter point is that since the dawn of humanity, every human has used someone’s else idea or tool to make their life better.

              So yeah, you owe it to everyone around you for the lifestyle you have right now.

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          Actually, in a socialist utopia, yes you would. And everyone else would be entitled to the thing you made too. And every pricetag would be based on the labor spent in making the item rather than inflated to satisfy the profits of some corporation that doesn’t add value to the product being sold.

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            That sounds like a communist utopia you’re thinking of, not socialist.

            And ignores that it’s not that “everything is free”, it’s that everything is owned by everyone, the same way everyone “pays” for the police - but they don’t work for you, they work for everyone / the state.

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      The annoying thing is that there will very likely be a homeless shelter in this city that he’s not allowed to sleep in because they have a zero tolerance drug policy.

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          Your precious taxes are still going to get spent on cleaning up their mess, regardless of you wanting them to be helped or not.

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            That guy would walk down to the prison and give them his pay check volenteerily.

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          It’s annoying because people who do drugs still need homes. Also not every drug user is aggressive or disruptive or whatever other reason the shelter would have for not allowing drug users.

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            You might be right, but if the requirement for shelter is to not use drugs, why is it the shelter’s responsibility to alter their requirements rather than the person who’s seeking shelter’s responsibility to abide by the requirements? They aren’t owed anything, they’re being offered shelter at someone else’s cost. If I’m hungry and a restaurant offers to give me free food, I can’t then get angry that they have a “no shirt no service policy” and require me to wear a shirt to receive my free food.

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      In what system would the homeless people sleep their nights in bed stores?

      The scarcity isn’t primarily the beds. The scarcity is where to put the beds, which is perhaps artificially upheld by zoning laws and other governmental shenanigans.

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        That’s just unfaithful interpretation of the argument, and you know it. US on average has 27 empty houses per a homeless person.

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            You might be confused because typically that figure refers to ‘homes’, not ‘houses’. Apartments and other multi-family housing types are included in that figure.

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              Alright but still. There must be at least a million homeless Americans if not more. That would mean 27 million housing units sitting on the market now ready to go and not be sold or rented out? That dwarfs almost any city in the US, I can’t even picture it. My building has three units for rent all occupied so you would have my building in a line of 9 million other ones I guess it takes about 1 seconds to walk across the front of my building, a line of 9 million would take 2,500 hours just to walk past, or a bit under a third of a year if you walked non-stop 24/7.

              This is very very large number.

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                Vacant homes are any home that’s not someone’s primary residence when they calculate vacancies.

                That includes vacation homes, temporary housing for traveling workers or college students, houses that are sold or rented but haven’t been moved into yet, housing held up in divorce or estate proceedings, etc.

                According to the census, last year there were 15 million vacant homes. Yes, that’s a lot, and yes, many can’t reasonably have a homeless person live there.

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                It is absolutely a large number.

                Might also help to know that this number likely also includes AirBNB’s and timeshare rentals. 27 million, spread over 3 million square miles (size of the US) and often in high-density buildings, including units that may appear to be occupied but are transiently used for only a third of the year.

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          That’s technically true, but really not important. Houses are defined as vacant if they’re unoccupied on the day of a census. There’s many reasons a house might be technically vacant, but not currently be able to house a homeless person.

          Was the house just sold, and is it unoccupied for a week or a month between owners? It’s vacant. Did the owner just move into hospice or a memory care unit and their children haven’t yet sold the house because they need to arrange an estate sale? It’s vacant. Is the house under construction but is mostly built? It’s vacant. Is it not safe to live in, but not officially condemned? It’s vacant.

          Want to move to a city? Either you have to find the apartment of someone moving out, or you have to move into a vacant unit.

          Having a good number of vacant homes is a good thing, actually; having low numbers of vacancies in an area leads to housing becoming more expensive because you can’t move into a unit that isn’t vacant. Increasing housing supply relative to population leads to higher vacancy rates, but decreases housing costs.

          Housing-first approaches to homelessness seem to be good in practice. But those are typically done by either government-built housing or government- subsidized housing; it’s mostly orthogonal to vacancy rates.

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          Right so the problem is that they don’t have money to buy those homes. It’s still not a problem with the bed store

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            The problems are:

            • they don’t have money to buy homes
            • they don’t have money to buy beds
            • we accept their suffering as necessary so that someone can make money from selling those things
            • we accept that their life is worth nothing without the value of their labor
            • we abdicate our own responsibility and become complicit by refusing to acknowledge the lack of humanity in this system

            Interpreting everything through individuality is a choice. Just because you refuse to acknowledge systemic injustice does not mean it does not exist.

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        The scarcity isn’t primarily the beds.

        Obviously not. The existence of homelessness isn’t due to scarcity at all, it’s to do with a system that tolerates (even necessitates) homelessness. The image could have just as easily been someone sleeping outside an apartment with a sign advertising available units; they sleep, freeze, and starve, because our economic model rejects their basic needs in favor of commodifying them.

        It’s not that hard a concept to grasp, it just seems like people have ingrained the logic of the market in their brains and can’t conceptualize the issue of poverty beyond ‘stuff costs money’.

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        Bed stores are a problem. They sit there taking up space for what? To look pretty for people to try out different brands of bed because we like to not figure out a universal solution to the problem of making a comfortable healthy platform of material that we can lay upon for long term rest. On top of that, instead of supplying our nation with affordable housing and furniture, it is laughably ignored.

        All these empty locations for these corporations to advertise products and “experiences”

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          To look pretty for people to try out different brands of bed because we like to not figure out a universal solution to the problem of making a comfortable healthy platform of material that we can lay upon for long term rest.

          We’ll do that as soon as we invent the universal spine.

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              I think his point is that any universal bed will be comfortable for some people and uncomfortable for others because people are different.

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                I said solution, not one bed to rule them all lol

                We need something that can scientifically determine a way to get people an affordable and comfortable bed that is not just go into a giant waste of space filled with random mattresses in hopes you find the right one and will likely just pick one that is “just good enough” after a minute or two from laying on it, When its use case is meant for laying on it for about 8 hours

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          IKEA and Costco both sell relatively affordable bedding and furniture solutions.

          Also, there are some delivery only bed companies. Ie Purple Mattress.

          Some people insist on actually trying out the mattress first and spending $4,000+ on a bed.

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            which one would you recommend? some kind of “culling games” or castration? Would you like to go first?

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      Has been for a while. During the big exodus from reddit we brought with us lots of typical redditors that think being a contrarian dickhead makes them cool.

      As well as lots of the usually sad little losers from across the internet that see people enjoying themselves and get the irresistible urge to make things worse.

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        “irresistible urge”, sure, but I wouldn’t give them credit for making things worse. Sure, they snicker at sticking their old gum under the desk, but it’s a whole set of other issues that’re burning down the building in the meantime.

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      There’s a ghastly number of people who are aggressively ignorant assholes.

      The point is that we don’t have people sleeping on the street for a lack of… anything, really. Including beds. The point is that, when nearly everything is run for-profit, and it’s even slightly more profitable to let people suffer and even die, then people will suffer and die. We do a better job selling beds than we do making sure everyone has a bed to sleep in. We could make sure everyone has access to a warm bed, shelter, food, medicine, etc., but we don’t, and it’s less and less acceptable to just accept the status quo just because it’s the status quo. If someone thinks the status quo is defensible, it’s on them to defend it.

      That doesn’t mean the mattress seller is evil, or (and I can’t understand the logic in one of the other comments) that wanting people to be housed makes you a hypocrite if you have your own housing. And the absolutely shameless comments that openly admit they won’t (really can’t) explain their position, but are going to condescend anyway.

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      But there being a salespoint for bed does not take home from the homeless. The issue is them being without shelter.

      This is Symbolik, but not the issue at hand. Also turning commercial buildings into flats does not seem like a good/efficient solution to a complex issue like homelessness. (Disregarding living out of a car homelessness)

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        The other guy said it perfectly:

        There’s a bed there, and there’s a human being sleeping on the ground.

        It really isn’t more complicated than that. Any explaination why this person is not allowed to sleep in this bed or why this person should not be able to sleep in this bed is absolute bullshit.

        There’s a bed there, and there’s a human being sleeping on the ground.

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      I think people’s issue with it is it’s just not very well thought out.

      The bed store would never under any circumstance provide the bed for homeless people to access what world would that ever happen in? The problem is the homeless person doesn’t have access to shelter but that’s not the fault of the bed store that’s the fault of the state.

      The image seems to suggest that the bed store are holding all the beds for some kind of weird show of economic supremacy rather than you know the fact that it’s a display room. No one’s buying those beds they’re display models.

      No one is arguing that homeless people shouldn’t be held but that particular image isn’t really anything.

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        You’ve understood about 90% of the argument. That 10% is capitalism is the link between the bed store and the homeless person.

        BTW, let’s all go hold a homeless person. Unintentional wholesomeness.

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        Why don’t we just convert all the bed stores into homeless shelters?

        That way you can try out a bed, get some feedback from actual users (the homeless sleeping on the bed), all the store profits can go to pay for housing the homeless, AND government won’t have to provide public housing!

        It’s a win-win, kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

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      Well, bed is not necessary since you can sleep anywhere as long as you can lie down. To make bed - trees were cut, the ecosystem were damaged. The birds who had their nest in those trees lost their home. Is this worth it?? /s

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      We don’t have everything. But we have plenty of lazy people who don’t want to contribute to the society.

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        I have. Also sheltered illegals before. Which at one point involved me having to stare down and bluff a process server. Not a moment I would like to revisit but proud of myself for doing.

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        Just because someone may or may not want homeless people sleeping in their house, doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t support social safety nets to make sure people aren’t freezing to death sleeping in indignity on the streets.

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          It’s easy to advocate for things that you bear no responsibility for. It’s no different than politicians war mongering and advocating for wars that they will send other people’s children to fight and die in.

          I don’t want anyone to die on the streets, but I also recognize that at a certain point giving help is enabling, and individuals are responsible for their own well-being and decisions. The help should absolutely be offered, but society should not be required to suffer those who refuse to take it/change their lifestyle.

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          You’ll shit your pants when you will learn that liberal is center right right-wing on anywhere else but the US.

          There is no such thing as “center-right” - the only differentiator between one right-winger and the next is how comfortable they happen to be with the violence that maintains their precious status quo.

          Liberals are just right-wingers that prefer the violence happening somewhere where they don’t have to witness it.

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    You’re not using your bed right now. Are you letting a homeless person sleep in it?

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      Why are you so intent on defending the ruling class? You aren’t in their group. You’re a broke ass like the rest of us and you never will achieve anywhere near enough wealth to forget that.

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        So just because the “ruling class” is shitty and there needs to be change, we should just be allowed to make stupid, embarrassing statements that show a complete lack of understanding of society or economics?

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      That’s not a contradiction. Your, my, and everyone’s bed is for sleeping in. The beds in that store are for accumulation of wealth. This displays the harsh efficiencies of capitalism, because the people in the most need for a bed cannot afford to have one.

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        I belive the beds in a store that sells beds are either to be sold or to help you choose a bed. They are not “fuck you, see how many beds i have” beds

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            That’s what everything everywhere is. Many folks in communist countries lack things others have too.

            Only in a hypothetical utopia could all persons have all things equally.

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          It’ll probably be sold at a discount too since it was for display

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              Right but equally it’s not the mattress company’s job to accommodate the homeless person. It’s not like they didn’t have to pay an inflated price from the manufacturer so if they sold it for the price of the materials they’d probably make a loss.

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        So beds in the store are for accumulation of wealth but then when someone buys them they’re for sleeping in? Deep

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        The beds in that store are for accumulation of wealth

        …selling people beds so they have beds to sleep in. Beds that aren’t riddled with bugs thanks to the store not being a homeless shelter.

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    I’ve always pointed to the fact that over half the food in the US is left to rot until it ends up in a landfill yet food insecurity is rampant in the richest country in the world.

    When they send police to arrest people, including homeless people and parents trying to feed their kids, for dumpster diving behind grocery stores and some grocery stores now literally shred or pour bleach on the packages of still sealed food that they throw away, maybe it’s a sign that society needs a pretty major paradigm change on how goods and services should be distributed.

    When police arrest people for giving homeless people food, maybe we should question who they’re really here to serve and protect.

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      This is a chat between my husband and I the other day and I’ve just felt so sad about it since then. Horrific display of wastefulness to humans AND birds

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        Sigh, remember when small restaurants and bistros literally used to let employees take unsold food at the end of the day, and if there were still food left after going through the employees it would be set out on the counter for anyone else to take? Remember when that used to be a massive perk of working in food service?

        Apparently many large chain venues aren’t even letting employees take unsold food anymore, using “safety” as an excuse even though the sellable and unsellable food are often literally minutes apart.

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          I used to dumpster dive, and got told time and time again how disgusting it was, despite the fact that the food was packaged, inside a large trash bag with other non trash merch. You’d wear gloves and wash the packaging before opening as a precaution. It was no different to that item being in a plastic shopping bag, yet somehow the transition to inside a dumpster made people freak out about it.

          We’ve become so disillusioned about food, it’s crazy.

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      maybe it’s a sign that society needs a pretty major paradigm change on how goods and services should be distributed.

      The disparity in wealth just needs to continue to grow until enough people recognize they are not on the receiving end of it.

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    You know what’s so sad about something like this?

    The conservative seeing this will opt to blame the individual. This conservative will most frequently espouse themselves to be a Christian nonetheless. “Jesus-like” in aspirations and idolatry.

    And yet, they’ll have the knee-jerk reaction to this image that is saying, “Well they put themselves in that position.”

    “It wasn’t the happenstance of birth locations,.”

    “It wasn’t the culmination of external forces and externalities building to this moment.”

    “It wasn’t the fact that their life was harder than my own.”

    “Or perhaps my life was hard and I’m using the survivor-bias fallacy to justify kicking the ladder out from under me.”

    The conservative believes there are lesser people who deserve what they get coming. It’s seemingly incomprehensible to them that we humans are quite literally of the same species, and that you must come to the conclusion one of two possibilities: Either (1) We are all a blank slate from the start and thus products of our environment. Nurture comprising the vast majority of what influences us. Which means those left out on the streets; those who take drugs in an ideal state of mind don’t want to be there, but are already too far broken from past experiences to reconcile their immediate choices (and need saved; protected; rehabilitated by the same outside forces that put them there in the fist place). Or (2) It is genetic, which means there is a predisposition incompatible with the inherently-flawed system we’ve built for ourselves. They’re a circle in a square system, and it’s thus just the same not their choice. And so again, the system should adapt and accommodate them just the same to promote a healthier society overall.

    THAT would be more Jesus-like. Not the lazy cop-out that casts them off as degenerates. Such people lack empathy and cannot comprehend the bigger picture.

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      I’d not just put it on the conservative. They are being brainwashed by a larger force that puts money as a goal above people. Eg: sackler and his punching down motion to witch hunt addicts in order to try to save the OxyContin face.

      As a result the easily influenced will go as far as see humans as subhumans if they threaten the almighty dollar. No doubt they are already in the tipping point as you said too. A perfect storm of apathy.

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      You know what? I was going to methodically refute each thing, but you’re so wrong that I’ll just say you’re wrong and then this: you assuming things about people and boxing them up as your own preconceived “stereotypes” is a way more toxic trait than your street side christian hypocrisy.

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        “I was gonna, but then I decided to just call you toxic cause I don’t like the things you said, and this way I don’t actually have to have a nuanced opinion or refute anything.”

        but at least you got to feel morally superior for a bit after posting, right?

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          I specified the behavior that I don’t like, and have said what I had to say. Further rebuttal would be pointless, because you can’t argue with stupid.

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          And another reason I didn’t put so much effort in is because that comment made me mad. This person managed to smear two separate groups of people in the same paragraph, quite thoroughly, while also being incredibly narrow. I don’t think that the descriptions actually represent the majority of these two groups of people. Perhaps it does describe some of the people in the middle of the Venn diagram, but certainly not all. You can’t just go around accusing entire groups of people of being “bad”. That makes you no better than Trump.

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            You didnt put any effort in, you saw something you didn’t like because you disagree so you just decided to pretend to have some sort of bag of tricks to prove your point, for some inane reason.

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        There are two types of Christians.

        1. The fake ones. Ultra-conservative. Personal responsibility blah blah blah.
        2. The real ones. Saved by grace, not by works. These are very rare. Some churches do not have a single one.
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    The real capitalist crime is that a mattress sells for such ridiculous prices that they charge thousands of dollars for a chunk of foam and some springs.

    Most mattress stores print money, and only need to make 4 sales a month to stay in business.

    They are insanely overpriced. Why doesn’t everyone just buy cheap beds from Costco and IKEA?!

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      I will say that sleeping on ikea beds wreck my back. I’m not arguing that beds are over priced, but not all beds are built the same. Unfortunately I needed a pricier mattress to suit my needs.

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      IKEA used to sell great mattresses, but when I had to replace my old one a few years ago they only had hard and semi-hard ones.

      And over time the mattress I ended up buying because they didn’t sell the one I wanted anymore sunk in and has formed an uncomfortable indent.

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    In a wasteful system there’d be some factory churning out obsolete mattresses to fill a warehouse that nobody needs because there’s a quota to be met.

    Meanwhile the workers can’t eat enough because resources were allocated by a bureaucrat last year who’s got no personal incentive to see either system work smoothly.

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      2 head pillows for some people who are restless and would keep moving in the bed, so they don’t miss any pillow zone with their heads. One for hugging. One for spooning them from behind for emotional support. One for crotch support to keep male reproduction organs comfortable by giving a bit of space between legs when sleeping on the side.

      Remove one spooning or hugging pillow when having 2 people sleep in the same bed, then multiply the rest. You get 21, and that is the number of pillows you shall have.

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      That’s an effect. Capitalism is about tying economic effects to owners, encouraging industry

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        You are conflating Capitalism with consumerism. The former under free market conditions allows the use of all resources. The later under government has Intellectual Property which hinders re-use and recycling as well as encouraging unsound spending with inflationary currency.

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      The point is that there are beds that nobody are using while people are forced to sleep on the ground. Because, yes, a store is unused at night.

      It’s about resources not being used as efficiently as they could be, because we are looking at the situation from a capitalist ideology point of view.

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        I don’t think the beds are the problem. Housing a single person takes much more resources than just a single bed. Those resources are scarce.

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          They are not, we have everything we need for all the 8 billion people living on this rock

          https://sharing.org/information-centre/articles/enough-everyone

          The first problem is the word “profit”, most people who can make astronomical differences, wont move a finger if there’s no profit in It.

          The second problem is logistics, it’s hard to get things around the globe in an organized fashion, and this is usually overcome with big incentives, which brings us to the first problem again.

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        The point is that there are beds that nobody are using while people are forced to sleep on the ground.

        If you let a guy sleep on it, then you can’t sell it. Who would buy it? The bed isn’t “not being used”, it’s not being used as a bed.

        It’s about resources not being used as efficiently as they could be

        There’s nothing inefficient about this allocation of resources.

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            The chances that person has bedbugs is non-zero. The chances they haven’t showered are also not exactly low. Putting them in a showroom bed could ruin it.

            I really want a solution to house people because it’s an untenable situation, but ‘let them sleep in a bed showroom’ is not a good solution.

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                The problem there is that sometimes ownership of a property is either lost or unclear. The woman across the street from us died. Her house has sat empty for years. No one seems to have claimed ownership of it. I doubt anyone is paying property taxes on it because whoever does own it doesn’t seem to be aware of it.

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                  Oh I realize that proposal is unreasonable and unrealistic. I’m just sick and tired of the people who are trying to make things better for others being the only ones that are supposed to compromise and “be reasonable.” The opposition has chosen violence and intransigency.

                  Far as that woman’s house is concerned, sounds like a good place to put a homeless squatter, who can then gain lawful ownership since no one else wants the place

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          Eh, bed stores are a particularly ridiculous waste of resources. The average bed store sells like 6-8 mattresses a month, which is inefficient and dumb.

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      Capitalism is when 27 empty houses per a homeless person, that are used as investments for the rich to play around with their imaginary numbers, while 99% of population struggle to survive.

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        Do you think society could be better if the rich weren’t forced to invest because their money is constantly being devalued by government and bankers?

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          Why are you gargling ruling class cum?

          Yes, society would be better if we didn’t have a ruling class period.

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          The society would be better if we collectively eat everyone who is hoarding money above some level. Physically, literally, eat them, with mustard and mayo.
          But since that probably isn’t happening anytime soon, we have to make them stop playing their stupid fucking games with things that humans need to survive, like, for example, housing. Let them buy and sell and invest and shortly squeeze to the moon whatever bullshit people don’t use, yachts for example. But when they do it with real life stuff it’s harmful for the humanity

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          I’m glad that the only problem with my comment you have is that number. Yeah, it might be described as slightly less than that, depending on how you define struggling, some people are perfectly fine with being one medical emergency away from a bankruptcy, and not struggling at all about it. But for the broader point it doesn’t matter, really.

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      “I interpreted the picture overly literally to the point it loses its meaning. I’m very smart”

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        @otter

        These are the days of the empty hand
        Oh, you hold on to what you can
        And charity is a coat you wear twice a year
        This is the year of the guilty man
        Your television takes a stand
        And you find that what was over there is over here

        So you scream from behind your door
        Say what’s mine is mine and not yours
        I may have too much but I’ll take my chances
        'Cause God’s stopped keeping score

        - George Michael.

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    This just makes me sad. I tried to donate my old foam mattress and nobody would take it. It’s fairly clean, non-smoking home, we don’t have bedbugs etc. I get why it could be a liability but still. Seems like such a waste to throw a king sized foam bed into the landfill. We only replaced it because I started having severe rib pain from sleeping on it but it’s better than nothing

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      Yeah you’d think most of our societies problems are a direct cause of late stage capitalism cresting a system where only profits matter and once its not profitable to feed or house someone then they are left to starve and go homeless or something. Haha I’m so glad that’s not the case, haha…

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      You don’t benefit from it, so why are you defending it? You don’t think you’re going to be a millionaire one day, do you?