Defiant Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu doubled down on opposition to Palestinian statehood, deepening the divide with Israel’s closest international allies, as cracks in his wartime “unity” government became increasingly evident.

Anger with Netanyahu is also increasingly visible on the streets, even though there is broad public support for the war. On Saturday, protesters gathered in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Caesarea and Kfar Saba, some calling for bolder action to secure the release of hostages, and others demanding the prime minister step down.

One in Jerusalem held a placard that read: “Mothers’ cry: we will not sacrifice our children in the war to save the rightwing.”

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  • HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    This shit has to stop. Israël under Likoud has turned into a rogue state, fighting a ruthless war on Palistian people, justifying the war for its own corrupt leaders. US and European governments must realize that Israel is not their ally anymore. It has become a liability and will not do anything for them

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      Israël under Likoud has turned into a rogue state, fighting a ruthless war on Palistian people, justifying the war for its own corrupt leaders

      Always has been.

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        Both are true. It has always been the case, and yet Likud and the country at large have both definitely shifted hard to the right in the last 10 years.

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    I just wish there was some historical example to show how it’s wrong to eliminate an entire group of people. Then, they could teach the Israeli government that the systematic removal of a group of people is wrong. But none such example exists. We need to build a great hall that tells of the cost of life by war and hatred. It will be called the great Hall of Cost.

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      There were Zionists in Israel who were actually supportive of the Nazis, both because they hated the British that much, and because they thought that if the Nazis forced the Jews out of Europe, those Jews would move to Mandatory Palestine to take up arms and exterminate the Arabs.

      The Stern Gang, otherwise known as the Lehi terrorist organization (and later integrated directly into the IDF as it formed) actually used Nazi race “science” to claim that Jews were a superior race and should exterminate the Arabs who lived in the area. The Stern Gang actually tried to field troops in support of the Nazis in Europe. They tried repeatedly until 1942. The Nazis said no.

      Fun fact; Netanyahu’s political party formed in the 1980s, as a fusion of two other right-wing parties. The first part leader and Netanyahu’s mentor was a former member of Lehi, and as prime minister gave all surviving terrorists medals “for their service in creating the State of Israel”.

      The other two paramilitary organizations that folded into the IDF were also full of terrorists.

  • Aceticon@lemmy.world
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    Netanyahu knows perfectly well that the US Administration are complete total bullshit masters that talk the talk whilst not walking the walk and that they’re “relaxed about Genocide” as long as it’s commited against non-whites (and for them nowadays Jews are whites).

    It wasn’t that long ago that in her speech in COP28 Kamala Harris said the US was putting pressure on Israel and then less than a week later the US vetoed in the UN Security Council a resolution for a Ceasefire in Gaza which would otherwise have passed.

    (Also, I’m pretty sure that had Russia invaded a Post-Soviet state like Kazakhstan instead of a “white” one like Ukraine, the reaction from the Whitehouse would’ve been barelly audible).

    • Worx@lemmynsfw.com
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      Not important to the main point, but why don’t you consider Ukraine to be a “Post-Soviet state like Kazakhstan”? Ukraine was part of the USSR

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        I do, hence why I phrased it like “a Post-Soviet state like A instead of one like B”.

        PS: that said, re-reading, that “one” is more likely to be interpreted as going with “white”. Sorry about that.

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          Ahhh, I misunderstood you. I thought I was going crazy because I was sure Ukraine was USSR! xD

  • من البحر إلى النهر@lemmy.world
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    Netanyahu isn’t going to live forever and it is Israel that has an expiration date on it. It has become evidently clear that it cannot stand on its own without political, financial and military aid from western countries.

  • simple@lemm.ee
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    Are we still doing this narrative that the US wants Israel to stop? They have literally given them billions since they’ve started bombing. Any bullshit about hoping for palestinians is just trying to save face.

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    The really tragic thing is that this is a unique opportunity to establish a Palestinian state with the kind of global support and Arab investment that it would need to succeed.

    Most Israelis want nothing to do with an extended stay in Gaza. Another leader in Israel would be able to make it happen, along with ANY serious leadership from Palestine. Abbas is useless, and Haniyeh is delighted to send wave after wave of martyrs at Israel while cashing the aid checks.

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    Yea maybe because over the course of the last many decades you’ve slowly stolen more and more land making a practical two state solution impossible without handing back land which we know they won’t do.

    Single state solution with equal representation for all is I think the outcome of all this BUT only if the current government is ousted.

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    His true colours are on full display, yet many still try to say this is not genocide.

    It’s sick to the core.

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      UK’s David Cameron: “to suggest there’s genocidal intent? I do believe that’s wrong”

      They’ll bend over backwards to support Israel, and people are asking what Israel has over the UK to make it so. At some point, answers will have to be given.

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        Read some British history. This is their last colony and they are very determined to keep it

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    Why does the “sole remaining Superpower nation” bow to a small onery loud mouthed pseudo-nation? Which one is in charge? Curious.

    • Zorque@kbin.social
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      Because taking them to task implies that supporting them for the last seventy years might have been a mistake.

    • SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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      Israel has spent decades building a powerful lobbying bloc in Washington. American-Israel PAC is one of the top 3 donors of Congress competing with NRA. They made ties with evangelicals and give free vacations to Israel for every politician. They establish ties with both major political parties and spend millions to defeat any congressman who criticizes Israel.

      • RagingRobot@lemmy.world
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        It seems weird that another country can lobby our government. Are there any others doing that? Russia? China? Like do they all have officially recognized lobbying groups?

        • SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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          Foreign countries are legally banned from donating to US politicians and any foreign lobbyists have to be registered. AIPAC has skirted around those laws and even been caught in some scandals over it (e.g. Larry Franklin passing classified documents to the Israeli ambassador) but has made powerful friends and avoided law enforcement.

      • spamfajitas@lemmy.world
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        It seems like people genuinely do not know about the nukes that Israel definitely does not possess wink wink. Kinda changes the dynamic a little bit, I think.

      • bamboo@lemm.ee
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        While screaming and crying about how all those neighbors hate them

          • fastandcurious@lemmy.world
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            It was because they started illegally stealing land, causing havoc in the region, you don’t steal others house and then wonder why they want to destroy yours

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              No it’s because they hate Jews.

              Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iran, and Lebanon do not give a single fuck about Palestine or Palestinians. They want the land for themselves.

              From 1948 to 1967 Jordan owned the West Bank. And Egypt controlled Gaza.

              No Palestinian state was created then when it could have been. Jordanians and Egyptians built settlements of their own and displaced Palestinians.

              Egypt refuses to take in Palestinians now.

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                For hundred of years, the French tried to make the Muslims attack the Jews of North Africa. They wouldn’t. Eventually Israel kidnapped them.

                Israel kidnapped the Yemeni Jews. They hope to return but they can’t because Saudi/US is trying to destroy Yemen.

                Iraqi Jews refuse to leave Badhdad. They love it there.

                Iranian Jews refuse to leave the "evil Iran who wants to kill all Jews.

                White people killed millions of their own Jews.

                Who hates “the Jews”?

      • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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        Your fears are unfounded, and your quickness to jump to them is unsettling.

        The US and UK rely on israel playing nice in order to maintain a base and foothold in the region.

        If israel did or does anything that actually threatened either nation, the soft hand would firm up quickly. But to these leaders, the genocide of brown people is little more than a minor PR problem. Not an actually threatening problem for their countries. So they see no reason to risk their foothold.

        • fastandcurious@lemmy.world
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          Netanyahu himself has said that US is easily manipulated, biden is (seemingly) constantly trying to pressure him to stop, but constantly sending support, and UK is doing no shit

          My point is that if Israel has this much power, it is definitely a worry-some situation for anyone who is not in the US and UK, which is like 95% of the people, this situation has destabilized the middle east, putting so many lives at stake, but no one seems to give a fuck

          If Israel did anything that threatened either nation, the soft hand would firm up

          Israel is probably not gonna drop bombs on the US, so idk about that, but the thing Israel can influence the US, but the US can’t seem to be able to influence Israel

    • kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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      Like what?

      You overestimate what one person (even the leader of a powerful country) can legitimately do to force another country to bow to his will.

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    Too true, netanyahu, I know you love your living space, just like your role model.