• Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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      6 hours ago

      Let me translate that rhetorical question for you:

      Why do you believe society should allow certain businesses to remain in existence, when those businesses utilize human labor, yet do not pay enough for human laborers to subsist?

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        3 hours ago

        I don’t believe that, you’ve just attached that to my argument because you either can’t understand my point or don’t want to.

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          1 hour ago

          I don’t believe that,

          I see. Maybe we have had a failure to communicate. What I was referring to was this:

          And especially Starbucks, it’s shit-work

          Whatever you meant by “shit-work” is what I was trying to ask you about.

          Why do you believe companies offering “shit-work” should be allowed to remain in business?

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            55 minutes ago

            By shit work i mean unskilled labour basically. It’s not worth much for a reason. I dont see why you would ask me that.

            Some business operate on unskilled labour, it shouldnt be a surprise that its not paid well, just because something doesnt pay well doesnt mean the company shouldnt exist, and since when did anyone expect that a part time job at startbucks could or should be able to fully support a person? That’s fucking ludicrous. And before you start with people have to take what they can get, yes thats true and starbucks isnt responsible for that shortfall, in a real socialist democracy, that should be taken up by welfare if needed.

            I understand the gut reaction to go after the CEO or board for making decisions that affect so many people, but it doesnt help, its misdirected energy that should go to the government.

            We cant expect any company to do what in the interest of the workers, unless its financially beneficial. The best way to handle this is to use government to reign in corps to limits we can be happy with.

            I stand by all I’ve said, but I respect your position, i just think it’s misguided.