He worked for a company that redistributed wealth for covering healthcare costs, but kept too much for themselves pushing some people into debt, and that company is still operating exactly the same today as it was before.
He and the rest of the organization’s bigwhigs chose policies that don’t cover the costs of a comparatively small number of people’s medical care. As did the guy who took his place.
Luigi killed him for that and nothing changed. Why are we supposed to cheer for nothing changing?
Thats not even UHC that was Anthem BCBS and they published the policy change on Thursday while Brian was murdered on Wednesday so unless you think they wrote up changes, held board meetings, and went through the review process as a medicaid provider in under 24hours then it wasn’t even related.
You should go listen to some of the shit the UHC suits have been saying, its been the polar opposite of apologetic, Brian might as well have been martyr to them.
First it wasn’t a random guy, he went after Brian Thomson specifically.
The message is that people support what Luigi did, or perhaps they don’t condone murder but they support that the industry is fucked and they want change.
I am interested in the trial and whether any meaningful change comes from this act. Either way I think it’s pretty heroic to throw your live, a rather privileged life at that, away for what you believe in. Misguided or not.
Brian Thompson is a random guy who worked as a suit for an unethicaly company. He was immediately replaced by another suit and the company has openly denied doing anything wrong, refusing to change how unethical it still is to this day.
Polls show Luigi’s actions are not condoned by a majority of any demographic. Change in the industry won’t come from this.
Heroic is selflessly doing what is right, not selfishly doing what is emotionally pleasing.
The Banality of Evil is a concept where an evil act is so spread out by bureaucrats and process, no one person feels responsible for the act. The “Just Doing My Job” excuse didn’t work at the Nuremberg trials.
You know what they did for Nazis at the Nuremberg Trials?
They got a fair chance to make their case. Many were re-educated and reformed so they could be reintroduced to society.
Brian Thompson didn’t exactly run concentration camps that made jews dig trenches to be buried in together, he made a company policy that negatively impacted the financial situation of an unknown number of people, so he got shot dead in a parking lot by a man he’d never had any interactions with.
I think we should change the system. I don’t think Luigi did a single fucking thing towards that effect.
Luigi’s supporters want to make an example out of Thompson so the next suit that fills his role thinks twice before choosing profit over healthcare.
If the legal consequences are minimal, then it encourages future actions by others or at least supports the semi-unspoken threat that it is likely to happen again if the ruling class keeps fucking around.
There are an infinite number of suits to fill that role unless we make changes to the system of laws and create new routes for finances to go towards covering healthcare.
Where there is profit to be made legally, there will always be people willing to do so.
Luigi’s supporters advocate for actions that do nothing for us.
That article shows more people thought the killing was unjustified than those who thought it was justified in every poll.
48% said they view the killing as totally or somewhat justified.
Those findings chime with an Emerson College poll which found that 41% of voters under 30 found the killing “acceptable,” far more than in any other age group.
Noteworthy that the Emerson College Poll actually found 17% total thought it was justified, the 41% being only among young people specifically.
Not a random guy still, but the one who brought change that denied claims at double the national average. Of course they won’t admit any wrongdoing the shareholders would crucify them. It’s too soon to tell if anything meaningful will come of his actions.
Polls? Did you check who paid for those polls. I could run a poll where it says 80% of people confirm the sky is pink, but if 80% of the respondents are colour blind can we really be sure the sky is pink. Point being don’t trust polls. Don’t trust me either by the way, I’m one person who is critically online and honestly the people against Luigi’s actions were a vast minority. On here, reddit, YouTube comments (even on Ben Shapiro’s own channel), and news reports with comments. Now full transparency that might not be indicative of all people but it sure seemed that way.
Heroic === brave
Brave = ready to face and endure danger or pain. Seems appropriate to me.
Emerson College students operate Emerson College Polling, sometimes taking donations or using research grant money but they’re low traffic and usually don’t engage in politics. The sample size was 1000 people and saw only 17% found the killing justified.
How does it benefit anyone?
Scenario where legal team is able to pull something off:
Brave man gets best legal defense imaginable because of donations
Gets off or small sentence
Shows crazy people and billionaires this could happen again and people will help the suspect out
???
More progress is made.
Luigi’s
familyFather is RichLuigi made 6 figures with his tech job and his multiple ivy league engineering degrees
A lot of these fundraisers probably dont even end up used for his defense, some are scams
Benefits a hero
A hero who kills one random guy, changes nothing, gives 10k to the police, and lives in prison?
Why would we want that?
Oh, he wasn’t a random guy. He was a mass murder. As in present tense at the time he was executed
He worked for a company that redistributed wealth for covering healthcare costs, but kept too much for themselves pushing some people into debt, and that company is still operating exactly the same today as it was before.
He intentionally chose policies that killed people. Boohoo. He got we He deserved.
He and the rest of the organization’s bigwhigs chose policies that don’t cover the costs of a comparatively small number of people’s medical care. As did the guy who took his place.
Luigi killed him for that and nothing changed. Why are we supposed to cheer for nothing changing?
iirc they changed one of their policies shortly after his death. I think it was insulin or something but I can’t remember.
Yes, there were definitely positive changes after their CEO was executed with popular support
Can’t find anything anywhere indicating that. The last time they walked back a policy to my knowledge was in 2023.
It was for Anesthesia.
Thats not even UHC that was Anthem BCBS and they published the policy change on Thursday while Brian was murdered on Wednesday so unless you think they wrote up changes, held board meetings, and went through the review process as a medicaid provider in under 24hours then it wasn’t even related.
You should go listen to some of the shit the UHC suits have been saying, its been the polar opposite of apologetic, Brian might as well have been martyr to them.
It’s about sending a message
Whats the message?
First it wasn’t a random guy, he went after Brian Thomson specifically.
The message is that people support what Luigi did, or perhaps they don’t condone murder but they support that the industry is fucked and they want change.
I am interested in the trial and whether any meaningful change comes from this act. Either way I think it’s pretty heroic to throw your live, a rather privileged life at that, away for what you believe in. Misguided or not.
Brian Thompson is a random guy who worked as a suit for an unethicaly company. He was immediately replaced by another suit and the company has openly denied doing anything wrong, refusing to change how unethical it still is to this day.
Polls show Luigi’s actions are not condoned by a majority of any demographic. Change in the industry won’t come from this.
Heroic is selflessly doing what is right, not selfishly doing what is emotionally pleasing.
The Banality of Evil is a concept where an evil act is so spread out by bureaucrats and process, no one person feels responsible for the act. The “Just Doing My Job” excuse didn’t work at the Nuremberg trials.
You know what they did for Nazis at the Nuremberg Trials?
They got a fair chance to make their case. Many were re-educated and reformed so they could be reintroduced to society.
Brian Thompson didn’t exactly run concentration camps that made jews dig trenches to be buried in together, he made a company policy that negatively impacted the financial situation of an unknown number of people, so he got shot dead in a parking lot by a man he’d never had any interactions with.
I think we should change the system. I don’t think Luigi did a single fucking thing towards that effect.
Luigi’s supporters want to make an example out of Thompson so the next suit that fills his role thinks twice before choosing profit over healthcare.
If the legal consequences are minimal, then it encourages future actions by others or at least supports the semi-unspoken threat that it is likely to happen again if the ruling class keeps fucking around.
There are an infinite number of suits to fill that role unless we make changes to the system of laws and create new routes for finances to go towards covering healthcare.
Where there is profit to be made legally, there will always be people willing to do so.
Luigi’s supporters advocate for actions that do nothing for us.
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/09/luigi-mangione-approval-poll-gen-z
That article shows more people thought the killing was unjustified than those who thought it was justified in every poll.
Noteworthy that the Emerson College Poll actually found 17% total thought it was justified, the 41% being only among young people specifically.
Not a random guy still, but the one who brought change that denied claims at double the national average. Of course they won’t admit any wrongdoing the shareholders would crucify them. It’s too soon to tell if anything meaningful will come of his actions.
Polls? Did you check who paid for those polls. I could run a poll where it says 80% of people confirm the sky is pink, but if 80% of the respondents are colour blind can we really be sure the sky is pink. Point being don’t trust polls. Don’t trust me either by the way, I’m one person who is critically online and honestly the people against Luigi’s actions were a vast minority. On here, reddit, YouTube comments (even on Ben Shapiro’s own channel), and news reports with comments. Now full transparency that might not be indicative of all people but it sure seemed that way.
Heroic === brave
Brave = ready to face and endure danger or pain. Seems appropriate to me.
Emerson College students operate Emerson College Polling, sometimes taking donations or using research grant money but they’re low traffic and usually don’t engage in politics. The sample size was 1000 people and saw only 17% found the killing justified.