For people who are so against transgender folk they sure do like to take advantage of gender affirming care.
LGB is the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen.
I’m not THAT young (born in the 90s) and even I’ve never ever seen LGB as an initialism without the T.
UK here, we have the LGB alliance, no surprises that it’s a bunch of bigots. Transphobia is our chief export after all.
that’s terf island, no surprises there. the US is now trying to beat you at it though. it’s almost guaranteed the laws will be worse and it’s going to be more misogynistic general as well. transphobia is an extension of misogyny.
This sort of thing is exactly why I say “queer” instead of using initials. Because you can keep adding more initials all day and you’re still going to be leaving people out that should be counted and you can take initials away like those people never counted to begin with. And it’s very easy for cishet people to ignore any of those letters individually and still act like they’re an ally.
“Queer” may have negative roots, but it seems to be generally accepted as an inoffensive term today and, I think, more reflective of sexuality as a spectrum. I wouldn’t mind a better word to use without those negative roots, but I just can’t think of one.
Born in the 70s here. I do remember LGB without the T in the 1990s and early 2000s, you probably were too young to pick up on the term. In any case, trans rights came into the spotlight much later than LGB rights.
Please keep telling me there’s no genocide of queer people in America. I hear that on Lemmy regularly these days.
Fuck trump. Fuck musk. Fuck this administration. Fuck Republicans. Fuck conservatives. Fuck anyone who voted for a single republican. And fuck most democrats who haven’t done shit for us.
Ok, so fuck the system. Just a question though? Is it fucking in a sensual way?
(just want to head off some awkward scenarios)
I fucking warned people that there was going to be a kind of trans genocide. I got told to shut up because “Gaza is a real genocide happening right now”
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Its not the dems. Its that broken two party shithole of a system. Its designed to pin partys against each other and make a show of it.
Neither party has any interest in the people, a third option has never been viable afaik and everyone and their mom was manipulating the shit out of everyone.
The spread of disinformation was so bad I had to ban everything that was related to the elections.
People need to organize, get orange man out and take out that whole election system in one fell swoop. Direct vote counts, multiparty system, then take out the ability to donate more than 1000$ to a party, then take out the billionaires who own the media and the huge conglomerates.
The whole situation is directly explainable through absence of any actual left wing politics. No social net, no housing, no healthcare, nothing.
The US is a perfect example of 30 years of toxic positivity and ignorance of spreading problems.
First they came for the T…
Then the LGB…
Then the T again…
…then the rest of the ATCG
That’s just a typo. The L, G, and B shouldn’t be there either.
First they came for the Trans people, but I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t Trans.
You know I had a crazy thought yesterday… I’ve gone in the bathroom a bunch of times and never once have I tried looking at anybody else’s genitalia… Why the hell does anybody care about this?
Edit: I mean not accepting people for being people everybody should just be cool with each other… What the government is doing is beyond evil and we need to do everything in our power to stop it.
Because they think nothing through. It doesn’t occur to them when they say trans women will rape girls in bathrooms that cis women can rape girls too. It also doesn’t occur to them that forcing everyone to use the changing rooms of their biological sex because “women are uncomfortable with a man changing next to them” means that they will be changing next to people who sure as hell look like men what with the no breasts and the beard. I’m guessing that will make them a hell of a lot more uncomfortable.
You probably also don’t watch far right media all day. Fox News and it’s spawn have been fear mongering trans people almost non-stop for years now. That’s the entire disconnect from the right and normal people
And don’t forget conflating trans people and drag queens.
Ever do a drag show? Even if you’re cishet?
Sorry, you’re trans now.
I had the unfortunate experience of working with newsmax doing Spicer and Co… I’m well aware of the paradigm of hate these groups propagate needlessly…
Yeah I mean to say it’s not your sole source of information. I’m sorry you had to go through that
Remember article 5 of NATO, an attack on a member is an attack on all members! We must show support for the trans and gender nonbinary communities while we organize with the hope of flipping the legislature in the midterms two years from now.
an attack on a member is an attack on all members!
Yes!
organize with the hope of flipping the legislature in the midterms two years from now.
Jfc, no…
What the fuck more will it take for people to understand that you can’t vote fascism away???!!!
There will be no more fair voting in the US with Elon controlling the US IT infrastructure
Republicans control all three branches of government. There is not a chance they will give any of that up voluntarily. And people still think elections will be in any way fair and free.
Lemmy is for some reason overcome with peak electoralism brainrot and thinks that instead of being the barest fucking minimum of effort, voting is actually the peak of political praxis. Frankly, it’s bizarre.
Since you can’t say guillotines, or the law would persecute Lemmy itself. If it happens, it won’t be televised, that’s for sure.
There’s no law against saying things like, “we should all get together on courthouse squares across the country for collective action next weekend” that would persecute Lemmy. But people are no longer interested in collective action, it seems.
Surely if we ask politely they’ll go away right? I mean, happened with hitler, mussolini, and also with franco! Specially with him!
This is a divide and conquer tactic, trying to turn lesbians into TERFs and gays into whatever the gay man equivalent of that is (TERG?). Don’t let it work.
Speaking of NATO, when do they, I dunno, wanna get involved in removing an obvious bad actor? Actors? I don’t see anyone else bothering, or even coming close to being able to.
Next up, they’re going to erase the remaining letters
I’m surprised they haven’t.
It’s a weird one, probably this is because I always try to see the bright side but I have mixed feelings. On one hand writing off just trans and queer people feels even more targeted and evil than deleting all letters.
But on the plus side, the fact that LGB haven’t been removed makes me feel slightly hopeful? This is a clear step back obviously. But it makes me feel that finally the idea that gay, lesbian, bisexual people exist and don’t need conversion therapy has actually sunk in and we can’t be erased so easily.
Now we have to keep pushing to get “TQ” similarly unerasable. 💪
But on the plus side, the fact that LGB haven’t been removed makes me feel slightly hopeful? This is a clear step back obviously. But it makes me feel that finally the idea that gay, lesbian, bisexual people exist and don’t need conversion therapy has actually sunk in and we can’t be erased so easily.
No, that’s completely wrong. They’re coming after trans people because trans people are the easiest target right now. They also intend to get rid of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people, but it’s easier to focus on one group at a time and attempt to split people apart.
They did the same shit in the UK with the “LGB Alliance,” mostly straight TERFs collaborating with the Heritage Foundation and doing absolutely nothing to advance the rights of the people they claimed to be supporting, focusing entirely on attacking trans people to the point of making alliances with extreme reactionaries and anti-feminists.
Anyone using the “LGB” acronym is either a reactionary using divide and conquer tactics aiming at attacking all LGBT rights, or a useful idiot to said reactionaries. There is no plus side here.
How does that old saying go?
“First they came for the transgender people, and then they stopped there.”
slightly hopeful
He’s pulled the gun, but only shot one of us so far. That’s good, right? . Right??
It would have been even easier to remove this page altogether, wouldn’t it?
I’m not disagreeing with you at all, but I think my point is being completely missed here. My point is not about what Trump has done which is unequivocally bad.
My point is about what we’ve achieved so far. We’ve made enough progress that to combat the “woke virus” they’re having to target first trans people specifically rather than directly removing mentions to LGBTQ+. I’m hopeful about the fact that we’ve achieved so much so far - obviously not about the fact that we’re being persecuted.
But on the plus side, the fact that LGB haven’t been removed makes me feel slightly hopeful? This is a clear step back obviously. But it makes me feel that finally the idea that gay, lesbian, bisexual people exist and don’t need conversion therapy has actually sunk in and we can’t be erased so easily.
Because the Nazis stopped at just Jews, right? Surely they never expanded upon that to encompass all “undesirables”, right?
Oh, wait.
I feel you’re trying to misconstrue my post by saying something I completely agree with, my post completely agrees with, and then throwing a sarcastic “oh wait”.
Of course I agree with this, which is why I say
This is a clear step back
And
We have to keep pushing
My point is about what we’ve achieved so far, which is worth celebrating, regardless of how we’re under attack. Obviously we have to achieve more - they’ll go for the rest of us after Trans people. Which wouldn’t happen if all of us make sure that trans folk are so obvious in the collective mind that erasing them becomes a ridiculous proposition.
Republicans have accepted LGBTQ people to some extent, otherwise they wouldn’t be pulling off this sort of devious shit and just removing these pages completely. That’s what is an achievement, and obviously we need to make sure we revert this and don’t keep regressing.
Doubt it. The LGB part of the equation aren’t hard for the average Joe to empathize with, they honestly would have skyrocketed in terms of acceptance years ago without the T group. The first 3 letters are just who you’re attracted to, the last letter is who you are and that’s a much bigger deal to a lot of people.
they honestly would have skyrocketed in terms of acceptance years ago without the T group
I’m gonna be honest, this seems like baseless speculation. At least by my flawed recollection, cis people barely thought about trans people at all over ten years ago. It’s taken a very well financed and concerted effort by the right to stir up as much hatred as they’ve managed to to this point.
Except, at least to my knowledge, there’s nowhere in the Bible that says mentions gender, but a couple of parts where it’s pretty explicit about acceptable sexuality.
Doesn’t really matter though as these people can’t read to begin with.
They’re going to ban the Bible too. This isn’t about religion, at least not to those in power.
- Human Sexuality: We affirm God’s biblical design for marriage and family between one biological man and one biological woman, which has proven to be the foundation for all great nations in Western Civilization. We oppose homosexual marriage, regardless of state of origin. We urge the Texas Legislature to pass religious liberty protections for individuals, businesses, and government officials who believe marriage is between one man and one woman. We oppose the granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for sexual behavior or identity, regardless of state of origin. We oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose non-traditional sexual behavior out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values.
- Definition of Marriage and Family: We support the definition of marriage as a God-ordained, legal, and moral covenant only between one biological man and one biological woman. Further, we support a traditional definition of family with only one biological man in the role of father and one biological woman in the role of mother. We are opposed to same-sex parenting, intentionally subjecting a child to the loss of their biological father or mother, and other non-traditional definitions of family
- Homosexuality: Homosexuality is an abnormal lifestyle choice. We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin, and we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values. No one should be granted special legal status based on their LGBTQ+ identification.
from the official 2024 Texas GOP platform: https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/2024-RPT-Platform.pdf
Reminder that the “LGB Alliance” in the UK literally worked with the Heritage Foundation and described it as “the only possible course of action.” It was an op with most of the supporters being straight transphobes trying to sow division. This move has the Heritage Foundation written all over it, they love that tactic, divide and conquer.
“Many countries do not recognise the X gender marker”
Yeah, guess which country also doesn’t do that?
Many of those countries are also considered shitholes.
T stands for “travelers,” right?
donno, i mean it could mean transformers, i’ve seen the movies, the trilogy, they are great and have big guns.
Next thing on the list should be locking people in to whatever religion they were born under. /S
Edit: Actually, they’ll probably add a P to the end so their leadership will stop getting in trouble.
