Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu issued a message of support Thursday for Elon Musk after the world’s richest man was accused of making a Nazi salute.
Musk “is being falsely smeared,” Netanyahu wrote on X, the social media platform owned by Musk. “Elon is a great friend of Israel. He visited Israel after the October 7 massacre… [and] has since repeatedly and forcefully supported Israel’s right to defend itself against genocidal terrorists and regimes who seek to annihilate the one and only Jewish state.”
Musk later thanked Netanyahu.
Clown world
Oligarchs are all in the same big mentally-ill sociopath club. They know they’re the devil and they revel in being evil. They only care about wealth and power, and their only common goal is keeping the proles fighting each other, instead of dragging them into the street and making them pay for their crimes; for the irrevocable damage they’ve done to all of us, and our societies.
I’m not convinced most of them actually believe any of the horseshit they spout. Their words are just a means to achieving their goals.
Oh I know they’re all amoral hypocrites. I was more referring to the fact that they can spout such blatant hypocritical nonsense and the rest of the world just goes along with it.
Calls everything antisemitism as a cudgel to defend themselves and their genocide
*sees a literal Nazi
Nah, not him, he’s cool
So… nazi salute in now welcome in israel?
🤨
You’re right, so we’ll probably see people around the streets of israel cities marching and saluting every night just to enjoy their lives
#Tourettessyndrome
Billionaires are always welcome, I guess Elon could shit in his mouth and he’d say “Thank you may I please have another?”
Shit’s getting reaaally absurd.
The simulation has gone off the rails, might need to reboot the server soon
Oh a member of the Likud party is good with Nazis. That tracks.
Mussolini supports Hitler.
We shouldn’t have killed the fucking gorilla, man.
This is essentially: “As a black man, those white hooded robes and burning cross definitely aren’t racist imagery!”
Nazi defends other Nazi. More at 11.
Serious question, if Netanyahu is a nazi why isn’t his government fascist? Literally 10% of the population of Israel was protesting him in 7/2023 demanding his removal and the Israeli state just let the protestors continue living. If Bibi is a nazi why didn’t his government pursue that population?
Netanyahu is a corrupt piece of shit. Him taking bribes from Musk is more likely than Netanyahu being a nazi.
Fascists have an order of operations, they don’t just round up all their enemies at the same time. First they attack their greatest opposition, which in Israel’s case is the Palestinian resistance.
If they ever managed to crush the resistance they’d start going after the other enemies of the state.
Just to make sure I’m not missing a joke or something, you are declaring the, I can’t believe I am writing this, Prime Minister of Israel of being a nazi?
I am drunk and hopefully missing something and apologies if I am.
Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. You understood perfectly.
Okay… Because I’m morbidly curious I guess, uhhh, what exactlt do you think nazis are most famous for? Like if you had to guess say one or two policies (hint, they might have affected gas prices?)
I’m very well aware of the Holocaust, thanks. Not only is it taught in schools extremely extensively where I live, but I have family near Kraków, and I’ve been to (relatively) nearby Auschwitz 4 or 5 times.
You’re obviously hinting that someone who is Jewish cannot be a Nazi, but that’s categorically untrue.
There were Jewish Nazis in 30s/40s Germany/Austria, and there are Jewish Nazis today.
Netanyahu is genocidal. He is racist. He is trying to create an ethnostate. He is expansionist. He talks of getting rid of undesirables. He defends people literally doing Nazi salutes.
He is a Nazi.
Nazis were also famously fascist, had no elections, had a strong security system to squash internal dissent and brooked no protest, none of which apply to Israel.
I get the appeal of labelling things you oppose as nazis but you can’t just pick and choose what aspects fit and then apply the term nazi, it just makes us look dumb.
When someone gets banned from a site and complains that site is run by nazis, if we’re using your standard of picking and choosing then that person is as correct as you are as the site is allowing no dissent and removing those who do. But in reality (I pray) we both look at that person and think less of their complaint because of the silliness of their comparison.
If you think what Israel does (genocide, expansionism, racism, building an ethnostate… you know, objectively the actions of a fascist government) is tantamount to banning someone from a website then you are so far gone that it’s pointless even trying to reason with you, so I won’t bother.
Goodbye.
You are so close to getting it. Yes, comparing the Nazis to banning someone from a website is fucking dumb and makes the person making the comparison look silly.
Using nazi as a perjorative for any group committing an act of genocide is the same.
Comparing what is happening in Gaza with the Holocaust (which is the implicit association you are making when you call groups nazis) is fucking stupid. One was arguably the worst thing in human history whereas what’s happening in Gaza is the same sort of thing that’s been happening constantly across the globe for decades and is happening in three different places right fucking now.
And the sense of scale is insane. Including all Palestinean deaths, 45k in ~ 15 months of fighting (including civilian and Hamas fighters) you could run these casualty rates for **25 years **and not match the deaths in Auschwitz alone (more than a million, almost entirely civilians.)
Labelling Netenyahu as a nazi demonstrates you are either woefully ignorant of the world beyond your social media feed, or have a literally childlike understanding of relative magnitudes, same way my friend’s toddler cries at horrific injustices like bedtime and no candy for dinner, to her these may actually be the worst things she recalls but that’s part of being a child.
And of course there’s the delightful soupcon of stupidity in calling the leader of the Jewish state a person that literally most famously hates Jews. Just, you look so stupid on so many levels that it makes all us adults who oppose the war look dumber by association. That’s why it is infuriating; not only is it a foolish comparison but it makes everyone who is against the war look like a similarly ignorant goof.
Are you aware that Nazis targeted more than just Jewish people? They rounded up and killed gay people, Romanis, Slavs, and anyone else who wasn’t part of their chosen in-group.
So to answer your question: Nazis are most famous for rounding up and killing millions of people whom the Nazis felt were subhuman. They were famous for working to create an ethno-state.
They were also famously fascist, had no elections, had a strong security system to squash internal dissent and brooked no protest, none of which apply to Israel.
I get the appeal of labelling things you oppose as nazis but you can’t just pick and choose what aspects fit and then apply the term nazi, it just makes us look dumb.
When someone gets banned from a site and complains that site is run by nazis, if we’re using your standard of picking and choosing then that person is as correct as you are as the site is allowing no dissent and removing those who do. But in reality (I pray) we both look at that person and think less of their complaint because of the silliness of their comparison.
Oh wow, fascist 1 defends fascist 2 and says that they’re not fascists… who woulda thunk it?
What does the word fascist mean according to you?
After getting a thorough definition, i gotta ask, what’s it mean to you…?
I mean, I’d quibble with parts of the definitions but it seems wild that folks are using that definition and then pretending it applies to trump or Netenyahu.
A fascist is someone who believes in a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition.
Lets see, nation over individual? Yup, very much so
Centralized autocratic government? Yup, see DOGE.
What on Earth? Because you have a conspiracy about DOGE it means there’s now an autocratic government? Wtf?
Dictatorial leader? Given that trump openly admires dictators and that musk supports him, also yup.
“He admires dictators so is a dictator!” That’s mind bogglingly dumb. And last time we called trump a fascist, guess what, there were free and fair midterms and a Presidential election. When those don’t happen, we can talk. Otherwise this is about the stupidest argument I can imagine.
And the economic regimentation has been going on for a while now. (the rich become richer, the poor become poorer and have far less power)
Dafuq? Like, the same gap that’s been increasing across the world is now actually a sign trump is a fascist? That’s the “thanks Obama” of fascism declarations.
The suppression of opposition: See what’s happening in Texas by their team members of the republican party, where they’re trying to oust the Democratic party from major political roles in committees and such.
They won’t have us in committees in Texas, clearly the Democratic party is now suppressed and non viable.
I’d say, it’s valid to call these people fascist.
That’s an incredibly facile position.
If the prime minister of Israel considers him a great friend… that certainly seals the deal for me. He doesn’t hate jews, therefore cant be a nazi.
