Summary
In a Fox News interview, Donald Trump argued that Ukraine should not have resisted Russia’s 2022 invasion, claiming Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy should have made a deal with Vladimir Putin.
Trump criticized Zelenskyy for choosing to fight, compared the military strength of Russia and Ukraine, and said he could have ended the war quickly through negotiations.
Trump’s stance contrasts with Joe Biden’s strong support for Ukraine, including aid and sanctions on Russia.
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Oh. Wow. You win.
If that rooftop guy could hit the mark like this comment did, we wouldn’t be having to listen to his chaotic-evil nonsense right now.
I’m kinda getting a “if you’re getting raped just lay back and take it” vibe from this.
Well yeah, and now he’s taking this move from Putin’s playbook for Greenland. He’s at the “people in Greenland would rather be US citizens” stage. Putin did the same thing in the beginning when talking about the territories in Ukraine he wanted to take.
Of course he did. Trump would never stand up to a bully, he would never defend the weak against the nasty. That would take courage, but Trump has only cowardice and sycophacny for bullies.
Trump is a person who sucks up to bullies, and punches down on the bullied, through and through.
Trump is a little bitch. Doesn’t know what being a man is, because if he did, he’d do the opposite of this.
It’s worse. I doubt he knows what being a human is…
Yo. You know. Screw him. Slava Ukraini!!!
Ukraine HAD a deal with Russia ensuring its peace and its borders. It was called the Budapest Memorandum. Russia was the one violating the deal Russia had agreed to.
I think you’re confused that was the treaty that said NATO couldn’t come within forty thousand miles of its borders and what about Biden’s Ukrainian money laundering bio-facilities?
In case anyone is thinking of taking this troll seriously, there is no treaty that prevents NATO from expanding east. There was something like it between NATO and the USSR but Russia officially is not the successor to USSR so they have no claim to that guarantee. It’s all Russian propaganda.
There was something like it between NATO and the USSR but Russia officially is not the successor to USSR so they have no claim to that guarantee.
Like, if you seriously believe that, you should check your reasoning skills.
This isn’t the ship of theseus. Not everything was exchanged. USSR changed one small thing which is its name and became Russia, that does not invalidate all prior agreements.
So why isn’t Russia taking responsibilities for the atrocities and illegal occupations done by the USSR? It’s as if it’s not just a name change.
Also what agreement do you think gives Russia that guarantee? There’s no paper that says NATO won’t expand east.
Officially, they are the USSR successor state; they received the USSR’s seat on the UN security council.
Okay. This is a bit more nuanced and what I gave was my opinion, as in they’re not the successor. They are the successor in some cases, but whether they’re actually the successor or not depends on which option is beneficial to Russia. When it comes to NATO Russia likes to act like it’s the successor, but when it comes to reparations for the atrocities the USSR committed that’s when Russia says they’re not actually the successor to the USSR and can’t be responsible for the atrocities committed by the USSR. I’m my eyes you can’t have it both ways and as such I’m just taking cues from the Russian playbook. Whatever guarantees were given they were given to the USSR and not Russia, especially when those guarantees were never on paper.
Preparing the people of Greenland…
And Canada?
The 51st state
In his inaugeration trump literally mentioned he wants the US to grow in territory.
And freaking why? When people are still struggling with basic shit like food insecurity in the borders we already have.
I know I’m asking this rhetorically and it’s all ridiculous it’s just…why???
Why?
In his mind size of territory is a measurement for the success of a civilization. And he views the U.S. as the greates civilization. He stated that in his inauguration speech. Access to the arctic circle controls trade routes, or this is what his advisors told him.
how this might have happened speculation
In my mind it went like this:
- Advisor: Mr. Trump the antarctic will be extremely strategically important.
- Trump: Nods
- Trump (in his mind): He is saying I should take over the entire Northern territory of Canada and Greenland.
- Advisor (in his mind): I wonder what he is thinking?
So Ukraine, hear me out… Eliminate Trump and Putin during the negotiations, blame it on someone else. Everyone will thank you, and we’ll get over it.
Downside is you’ll have JD Vance as president. Unsure that’ll be any better.
Vance has a brain, which is both scarier and more reassuring at the same time.
Vance has no political capital like Trump. He doesn’t have a cult he can use to threaten to primary people. Once Trump is gone all of this loses momentum.
Will be interesting to watch the power vacuum when Trump dies. It will be a great opportunity for the democrats to make progress. I’m sure they’ll find a way to fuck that up too.
I’m not sure anybody would rally behind him. He had the lowest likability score of any VP pick since 2000 - even below Sarah “I Can See Russia From My House!” Palin.
Palin was rocking the MILF vibe and, for better or worse, took her conservative creds mostly seriously.
Vance is date rapey, nakedly ambitious, and completely owned by Thiel.
Does he really believe this, or is this redirected anger because he’s finally figured out that he can’t, in fact, just solve it?
Probably, Putin told him to pound sand, and then OPEC basically just ignored him when collapsing oil prices was the next idea.
Putin didn’t tell him to pound sand. Putin holds the leash. Everything Donald Trump says and does is to advance Russian interests.
I see little evidence of that. At most Putin has a small amount of leverage on him. Basically, there’s just a lot of stuff good for Putin Trump could do but doesn’t.
It’s only the first week.
In his previous term, he had to be forced by Congress to keep sanctions against Russia in place. Getting rid of them was one of his first priorities.
He also has been publicly threatening to economically destroy Russia for the last week, so there, a bit of evidence both ways.
Meanwhile, he could order assassinations in Ukraine if he wanted to and nobody could stop him.
Trump says a lot of shit. He also said Ukraine shouldn’t have fought back.
Actions speak louder than words.
His pro-Russia actions are way more weak than I would allow if I were Putin and actually controlled him, though.
Because of the separation of powers and checks and balances we have in the US, he doesn’t have unilateral power to do whatever he wants. He can typically only inch toward Putin’s goals. Why do you think he is trying to weaken our relationships with our allies through tariffs and talk of land grabs?
Really? So, Mexico can take back what they lost and the USA will not resist.
If by that you mean Texas? Please take it back.
Only if they take Florida also. Package deal.
Actually, they can have all the Gulf states.
golf states
What about states where they play other sports ?
Ugh. I guess it’s starting. Anyone placing bets on how long before Trump does a complete about-face on the situation and starts running joint missions with Russia against Ukraine? I’m morbidly suspicious that might really be how things end up.
