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Honestly, I’m not really excited about the past couple of major Nextcloud releases.
Mainly because there’s still one big issue for small-scale Nextcloud servers: performance.
Mainly the web UI is still too slow for me to properly use, which is why I don’t use it at all (unless I have to update an app).
It’s a bit disappointing that they’re mainly focused on the large enterprise customers instead of small hobbyists like me, but it’s still understandable; after all, their income is mainly from the enterprise customers, not from selfhosters.
I also don’t really like how they’ve jumped on the AI hypetrain instead of improving performance. But once again, I guess this generates more income for them than focusing on other things like improving performance.
Agreed. Nextcloud keeps turning itself in hype mode 😑 Remember their social app and “Nextcloud joins the Fediverse!”. I think they even made that social app a recommended app for some time while it was barely usable. Not sure what the current state of the app is but I hear nothing about it I guess cause : new hypes!
Performance is why I stopped using it and replaced it with Radicale for card- and CalDAV and Syncthing for filesyncing. Couldn’t be happier with the results.
Syncthing is fantastic. Loving it so far.
Also the state of encryption is abysmal. It seems to be constantly experimental/beta. I vaguely remember them talking about launching E2EE at like nextcloud versions 16 or something, but it seems flaky even still :/
There’s also compatibility mismatch between certain versions of clients and servers. That almost cost me a bunch of files. Thank RMS I had a local copy through syncthing.
I am driving away from nextcloud more and more. I would be back when they get rid of php and really develop even one plugin (the so called “apps”) which isn’t just an alpha version.
I don’t see any use case for this bloated all in one monster with crap performance. Someone needs his files in a browser and overall synced. Use syncthing and something like filebrowser or filestash. Photos? Immich. Documents? Paperless. Music, Movies, e-books? Jellyfin. Collaborative Docs? Onlyoffice, cryptpad. Notes? Joplin, trillium. etc.
Yuuuup. I really don’t understand why it’s so popular. It’s bloated and overly complex. I’ve tried running an instance twice in the past few years, and both times I gave up within a week.
It’s popular because people want this to be real, but it’s just a promise. The actual thing can’t run without crapping it’s pants. Even if you manage to run it fine, there will be an update that will break everything.
I like Nextcloud very much but this release (and the one before it) are really enterprise focused for which I don’t have a use case…
But there customers do
I just cannot find a use case for Nextcloud. I have gone as far as installing it and sync’ing it with my LDAP for user auth and sync pictures from my phone to my NAS. All the other features are just a big ole m’eh for me.
This has just been my experience, so maybe I’m missing something that would just make it all click and make me not live without it. So far though, I’ve spun up and spun down an instance 3 times and never missed it afterwards.
I use it to sync all my photoshop projects and documents from my different machines to my server and to have access to those files from my phone , it’s the first thing I install when I do a fresh install of my os since everything I use is there
I like it as basically a self-hosted Dropbox/GDrive for syncing and sharing. I would love for them to focus more on that (performance especially, as others have noted) instead of all the other crap they keep trying to jam into it.
I used it mostly for calendar and adressbok synchronization between devices bit the performance was so bad O had to replace it.
What did you replace it with? In my case I love my Nextcloud because I have my calendar, adress book, tasks, notes, RSS feed, etc. all in one app but I’m interested to hear alternatives to it
- https://radicale.org/v3.html for calendar, address book, tasks, notes (use native clients for it on desktop and phone, for Notes on desktop I couldn’t find anything so I’m writing JNotes)
- https://tt-rss.org/ for RSS (have been using it for ever and wrote myself a Linux desktop client)
I use it to manage my documents, backup my photos from my phone to my server and access all my files from any other device. Basically Nextcloud is my replacement for OneDrive.
Additionally, I have used it in the past to collaborate on various group projects which require documents. For example, I had to make a presentation with some other people and I could create a PowerPoint in Nextcloud, send a share link to others and then we could edit the PowerPoint in realtime with Nextcloud + Collabora, which is pretty cool. It’s the only FOSS alternative (at least as far as I’m aware of) that can compete with Microsoft 365 / Google Workspaces.
Came here to say the same. The integration with Collabora is wonderful. I used FileRun and FileBrowser with OnlyOffice in the past, and the experience was totally different (a part that OnlyOffice messes with Excel/Spreadsheets pivot tables, or at least one year ago, making it impossible for people to work with them). I understand the hate, but currently, at least for me, is the closest experience to O365 .
By now it is widely used in my family as backup for our smartphone photos and important documents on PCs. In addition we use it for our calendars, contacts, notes and passwords.
I’m also investigating whether it’s useful to track recipes for the food we normally eat to help manage our usual “what should we eat today” and “what groceries should we buy this week” questions.
Could you expand a bit more on the LDAP part? I’m thinking of rolling something like that myself but not sure if it’s worth it
It really is so slow it’s not study worth using unfortunately.
Syncthing and some nice caldav and you’re mostly good.
While I do love Syncthing, it solves a different set of requirements.
It works fine for me
Every fucking Nextcloud post is covered with people shitting on this opensource project that is hugely popular and works well for a lot of use cases.
If you don’t like and can’t get it working right, then don’t use it. But maybe keep your bitching to yourselves so the rest of us can discuss it.
Doesn’t help that every nextcloud official announcement promises the moon while delivering not even stardust.
Example: this blog post from two years ago: https://nextcloud.com/blog/plan-your-next-trip-with-nextcloud-maps-new-features/
None of the features written in that post are available, even today
It’s something that it might be coming in a decade if someone is inspired by the mockups and codes it. When you install the maps plugin it shows a map of the world, and that’s it.
If they need to announce a concept that only exists as a mockup, either publish the news on April 1st or write “concept of how maps might integrate with nextcloud 50”
