What does “insurrection” even mean?

That’s the question top Republican lawmakers — including Mitch McConnell, who previously held Donald Trump responsible for the riot on January 6, 2021 — are asking the Supreme Court in a brief defending him from being disqualified in the 2024 election.

In a legal brief filed Thursday, 179 Republican politicians urged the court to overturn a Colorado Supreme Court ruling that kicked Trump off the 2024 ballot because it found he violated the 14th Amendment’s Section 3, which bans those who “engaged in” insurrection from running.

    • deft@lemmy.wtf
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      It isn’t Trump.

      If you send him to prison you normalize imprisoning politicians who did crimes.

      So big criminal politicians are trying to prevent that. If he doesn’t go to prison neither will they

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          you can see where if you were a politician who commits crimes (which is to say, a politician) and you were in charge of whether politicians who commits crimes go to jail, you might have a different opinion about these things

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          The problem is that they are criminals as well and would go to jail themselves.

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            Good thing it’s the justice department’s job. Checks and balances. Oh wait, my fucking Republicans took over the courts.

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    Republicans: The federal government is too big and acting like a nanny state!

    Hillbillies: The Civil War was all about states’ rights!!

    Hillbillies/Republicans/Same thing: How can a state do this?? Hurry federal government and overturn the state’s ruling!!

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      Hey now, there is a distinction to be made between rednecks and hillbillies. Rednecks fly the stars and bars, hillbillies fuck their daughters.

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      Just to clarify, this is not an example of Poe’s Law. Florida is really, actually, truthfully, no bullshit, banning most dictionaries in schools.

      Florida law currently prohibits books that depict or describe sexuality. Most decent dictionaries include definitions of sexual terminology. Consequently, schools are pulling dictionaries, encyclopedias, and a wide variety of classical works and reference materials, rather than risk criminal charges.

      That kids won’t be able to look up the definition of “insurrection” at school is a welcome side effect for them.

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        Just to clarify, the government is not specifically targeting dictionaries. They passed broad laws regarding acceptable content in school libraries and some teachers have been enforcing them very strictly as a for of protest.

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    Now let’s point out that to the extent the term is not defined, it’s definition is Congress’s responsibility (that is to say their responsibility). To the extent that their definition is unclear, it is the responsibility of the Court to interpret it. So are they complaining that they haven’t done their own job?

    18 U.S.C. section 2383 has Congress’s current definition of insurrection.

    In short, this is just grandstanding to distract their gullible base.

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    I understand that “insurrection” is defined as an act of revolt or uprising against an established government or authority. It typically involves the use of force or violence by a group of individuals seeking to overthrow or challenge the existing government or political order. Insurrections are characterized by organized rebellion against a nation’s laws or governing bodies, often in pursuit of political, social, or ideological changes. This term is commonly associated with actions that are considered beyond the realm of peaceful protest or civil disobedience, veering into the territory of armed resistance or violent uprising.

    I…I’m really not sure how you can read something like that and still make this argument. Despite my familiarity with the utter lack of morality in the GOP, this new low surprises even me. Also, McConnell, just die already.

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      I don’t get it. Why does McConnell not simply retreat into his shell at the first sign of danger?

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        He does. The GOP just had a special aide who will coax him out of there with slices of pizza. Each time he defends trump, he’ll get a whole pizza just for himself. Can’t blame the guy really. What else is he going to do when all his friends leave him to go play ninja with that stupid bearded rat?

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    Both Trump and Biden partisans could try to disqualify each other under Section 3, in tit-for-tat retaliation that has already been threatened," the Republicans wrote.

    They forgot to add “by us” at the end of that sentence.

    It’s bad enough when Neoliberals make these slippery slope fallacies when it comes to holding fascists accountable, but Republicans‽

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    Jan 6 was a big nothing burger. Filling a room with people is all it takes to take over a country these days??