this is just true. first time i saw the atheist memes community i thought “huh that seems interesting” then i looked at whats in there and “huh these people just hate cristianity and barely even give good reasons for it”
A lotta internet atheists seem to care more about hating the specific flavor of Christianity they grew up under and didn’t like than the concept of religion in general, but they view those two things as one and the same.
They cry foul at (admittedly, abhorrent) outlier behavior and use that as a generalization against a globe of different religious practices without knowing how they affect the day to day lives of various practitioners.
It seems to me they have a larger problem with vulgar hypocrisy and abuse of institutional power than the concept of theism in general.
Like the people hypothetically sentenced to work a restaurant service job so that they’re more empathetic to wait staff, I think many internet atheists would do well with a stint as a half-practicing Protestant who’s mostly in it for the potlucks or a Reform Jew who prefers to party most Fridays, but makes a point of showing up on High Holidays to catch up with acquaintances.
I’m really into theological debate/discussion but I gotta admit, I cannot stand atheist communities online. I want to believe all the vitriol and seething is coming from kids who haven’t processed their religious trauma… But I get the feeling at least half of it is adults with nothing better to rail against
They may not all be pedos, but a lot more are assholes who hate homosexuals and trans persons, or assholes who want to deny women their reproductive rights, or assholes who keep voting for far-right extremists. Just because a lot of Christians are “nice people” doesn’t mean that their ideology causes any less harm.
I must’ve grew up in a very different household then most American’s. Practicing religion with my family the Christian ideology shouldn’t be any of those things, it should be to spread peace and love, “love thy neighbor”.
Anyone who’s a far right extremist especially in 2024 I completely agree are all assholes, but I hope I can reiterate that “Trumps Christians” is its own religion and ideology entirely, and a lot of other people, especially those practicing religion in other countries, are actually those peace wanting love spreading people that Jesus was actually trying to spread to his followers, we are commanded not to judge others for we do not have the right to judge, but also not to condemn others for the same reason. Instead, we’re commanded to spread peace and love to all of God’s children. That’s at least what I’ve been taught in my church, my family, and by reading the bible myself. We do not agree with those ideologies (being a general dick head, being judgmental, harassing people, restricting woman’s rights, etc etc) and anyone who does may believe in Jesus but are not followers of him if thats their purpose in life. And it sucks ever since Trump we’ve all been categorized into that group and painted as the same thing, which is what makes me despise him even more.
It seriously hurts to see how many Church’s and Christians have become so unbelievably fucking evil in the states.
not all Christians are assholes who touch kids. a lot of (not saying all) the atheists here are absolutely wild
this is just true. first time i saw the atheist memes community i thought “huh that seems interesting” then i looked at whats in there and “huh these people just hate cristianity and barely even give good reasons for it”
No one hates religion as much as those who got free of it. It’s quite valid reason.
It’s of course always big news when another pastor was raping kids, but it’s only the iceberg of the violence kids experience in religious homes.
it hurts my soul hearing how parents treat their kids because of “the bible”
if they actually read the bible they’d understand that no, you shouldn’t throw away your kid out on the street because they’re “sinful”.
I feel like if most Christians would read and understand the bible, they wouldn’t be Christians anymore
Yeah I had to block the atheism and religion related subs bc they were cringe
A lotta internet atheists seem to care more about hating the specific flavor of Christianity they grew up under and didn’t like than the concept of religion in general, but they view those two things as one and the same.
They cry foul at (admittedly, abhorrent) outlier behavior and use that as a generalization against a globe of different religious practices without knowing how they affect the day to day lives of various practitioners.
It seems to me they have a larger problem with vulgar hypocrisy and abuse of institutional power than the concept of theism in general.
Like the people hypothetically sentenced to work a restaurant service job so that they’re more empathetic to wait staff, I think many internet atheists would do well with a stint as a half-practicing Protestant who’s mostly in it for the potlucks or a Reform Jew who prefers to party most Fridays, but makes a point of showing up on High Holidays to catch up with acquaintances.
I’m really into theological debate/discussion but I gotta admit, I cannot stand atheist communities online. I want to believe all the vitriol and seething is coming from kids who haven’t processed their religious trauma… But I get the feeling at least half of it is adults with nothing better to rail against
My favorite are the ones that treat science like religion, and don’t recognize the hypocrisy.
I don’t think it’s treating science as a religion, as it is treating their atheism as a religion.
Internet atheism has just always been pretty bad. I enjoy a good joke about religion but some people take it to extremes.
when I first got on lemmy I literally never minded the atheist memes until awhile after. they started getting very extreme.
They may not all be pedos, but a lot more are assholes who hate homosexuals and trans persons, or assholes who want to deny women their reproductive rights, or assholes who keep voting for far-right extremists. Just because a lot of Christians are “nice people” doesn’t mean that their ideology causes any less harm.
I must’ve grew up in a very different household then most American’s. Practicing religion with my family the Christian ideology shouldn’t be any of those things, it should be to spread peace and love, “love thy neighbor”.
Anyone who’s a far right extremist especially in 2024 I completely agree are all assholes, but I hope I can reiterate that “Trumps Christians” is its own religion and ideology entirely, and a lot of other people, especially those practicing religion in other countries, are actually those peace wanting love spreading people that Jesus was actually trying to spread to his followers, we are commanded not to judge others for we do not have the right to judge, but also not to condemn others for the same reason. Instead, we’re commanded to spread peace and love to all of God’s children. That’s at least what I’ve been taught in my church, my family, and by reading the bible myself. We do not agree with those ideologies (being a general dick head, being judgmental, harassing people, restricting woman’s rights, etc etc) and anyone who does may believe in Jesus but are not followers of him if thats their purpose in life. And it sucks ever since Trump we’ve all been categorized into that group and painted as the same thing, which is what makes me despise him even more.
It seriously hurts to see how many Church’s and Christians have become so unbelievably fucking evil in the states.