I really like lemmy and have stopped using reddit months ago. My only real gripe with lemmy is the title: when a conversation gets going in the comment section, that gets killed when the post is deleted, for whatever reason. I can’t even go back to a conversation and have a look at the comment threads to “dwell in nostalgia” (or whatever) if the post to the comment section gets deleted. Piecing the threads together from the inbox and my comments on my profile, and continuing a discussion via direct messages is cumbersome and kind of antithetical.
So, feature request, I guess: Enable retrieving comment sections of deleted (removed from community) posts. Bonus points if new comments could be added after the deletion (/removal) of a post.
Little add-on: The current behavior kind of makes the creator of a post the “owner” of the comment section. If they dislike an ensuing conversation, even if they’re not involved in it, they just delete the post - “Fuck you, you’re not having that conversation!”. I find that problematic from an ethical perspective.
I find that problematic from an ethical perspective.
You are not entitled to the moderation you want, host your own instance, it’s their club.
It seems you completely missed the point. I made no comment on moderation in any way, shape, or form.
The point is i think it is a moderation decision to do that, you are welcome to host your own instance with a modified version of lemmy.
The scenario I laid out clearly doesn’t involve mods or admins. Though mods’ or admins’ intervention has the same effect. As pointed out by at least one mod here in the comments, it is problematic from their perspective too, because nuking entire threads by deleting one comment or post is a technical limitation, not a moderation issue
That comic is so full of shit. Anyway, enjoy brown nosing mods forever because the moment stop toeing that line, you’re gonezo
I’ve been running into this more and more recently and it can be frustrating.
Usually I’m looking for some specific piece of info that I received in response to a comment I made, or something I commented on. However if the post was removed for whatever reason I can only view my comment, but no context.
So it seems like the comment itself is still there, so I’m assuming other comments are still there, just only visible for the users that made them. It would be great if this was changed as OP is requesting.
This extends to moderation as well.
If I remove something early on in the chain, it prunes the entire thing. Sometimes there will be rule breaking content, and then a really detailed and well thought out response explaining the issue / debunking the misinformation. I don’t want to have to pick between keeping the good content and removing the bad.
It also gets annoying to moderate because I have to work from the tail end of every chain backwards else I’ll lose access to comments after the prune point.
One positive, the new version of Lemmy will fix this issue for account deletions. Previously when accounts were deleted, they took out all the chains with them. Now you have the option to not do that.
Totally agree. It also happens when a comment is removed and the whole tree of replies gets cut off at that point and is no longer viewable. It’s definitely technically feasible because admins can still see removed posts/comments and all the replies, so I would imagine it’s just a matter of time until the developers can get around to implementing that functionality for normal users.
they need to just strip the content, not truncate the tree. kbin has similar issues
You setup an instance where you don’t delete any content
I agree with the issues noted in comments here. Truncating the whole comment chain below the removed comment, or removal of post disallowing visibility of discussions that happened there is absurd.