Too many people do not understand the difference between weather and climate.
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For being so smart, we are so dumb
It’s not just that we’re stupid. We’re also selfish.
Many are proud of their stupidity.
And their selfishness.
Huge difference between raw intellectual capacity and exercised utility.
You can have a 10 gallon bucket, but it’ll only carry that much water if you fill it.
We think we are smart enough to get away with it.
The solution to global warming, then, is clearly to just set up a massive ring of fans all pointed in the same direction in a ring around the North Pole, to keep the jet stream going
Not the worst geoengineering idea.
Not a good idea, but I’ve heard worse
That is the worst geoengeniering idea. https://whatif.xkcd.com/162/
Isn’t that literally just a thinly veiled Futurama reference? Like, there was an episode where planet Express was sent out to fetch ice from Haley’s comet to dump in the ocean to combat global warming which fails and they end up just pushing the earth farther away from the sun to cool things down?
It’s mentioned in the article.
Whoa whoa whoa, hold up: it’s NOT foreigners?!?
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This will also fix the wind turbines using up the all the wind!
WIND TURBINES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY! GOOD NIGHT!
We should point those fans at the wind turbines so we can at least gather the power from fans! Why waste it!
Finally a solution! Now what to do about the turbines murdering whales?
I am in love with the elegance of this idea that would not work even a little bit. Occam, eat your heart out.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/understanding-arctic-polar-vortex
As of 2021 the science was not settled on the ice loss as a cause or an affect. This article goes into both theories.
That’s a bit like the investigation into whether lethal bear attacks are because of their teeth or their claws - probably really interesting, but not critical to the question of avoiding the bear.
This made me laugh.
But a fair point when someone says it’s due to one as part of their argument
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I was led to believe it’s both. Global warming causes ice loss which contributes to global warming which causes more ice loss which contributes to global warming which causes more ice loss …
You can’t use logic with these people, they’ll try to burn you for being a witch.
Or they will send you a wall of links and accuse you of not reading every single one of them!
Don’t worry, the Earth will heal >!once we’re gone!<
If those people could read they’d be very upset.
Earth’s just gotta drink more if its stream is weak. I mean that’s what I do
We should also pour cranberry juice into the ocean.
OMG does our jet stream pass through a UTI too??
HEY!!! Get your science and facts out of here!
~ ~Places fingers in ears and closes eyes~ ~ laalalalalalalal
Y’all ready to be gouged for survival items until money becomes irrelevant?
P.S. ‘A Capitalist Apocalypse’ would be a fun title for a political comedy song.
I’ll start writing that play. We won’t even have to splurge on the stage as the wasteland will provide a natural setting.
Tell us about the before-times again!
I was trying to look up why less polar ice causes shifts in the jet stream and this article cites an active debate around our understanding on this.
The tweet does not really address that point, and makes the cause and effect sound definitive.
What, are you saying a website called X where I can easily share both amateur porn, shitpost, and fight with other keyboard warriors isn’t a solid source for factual information? smh what are you talking about
Next you’re going to tell me that drinking diesel fuel is bad for my longevity or something.
Send this to the top, folks
The Xcretion says that less ice “is consistent with” a weaker jet stream, which does not imply a casual relationship. If A causes B and Y, then B is consistent with Y; or, more accurately, we can produce a useful model of the system that includes both less ice and a weaker jet stream, and have it be internally consistent.
Even as the US hits record setting lows, the temperature of the planet as a whole remains above average. If it’s -20°F across the entire US, how hot must the rest of the planet be?
-20F? Where?
That was hyperbole, I don’t know if it’s been -20°F across the entire country at any one time, but there was a couple years ago when we had that big freeze and Texas almost died
But also gets that low in my own city sometimes
Texas almost died
That’s good shit right there.
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Calm down. It’s just words.
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It was experienced in Colorado.
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I just hope we’re not seeing the start of a shutdown of the North Atlantic current, which is likely what led to the Younger Dryas ice age, which marked a dramatic climate shift and widespread extinction event over just a couple of decades:
The change was relatively sudden, took place over decades, and resulted in a decline of temperatures in Greenland by 4–10 °C (7.2–18 °F), and advances of glaciers and drier conditions over much of the temperate Northern Hemisphere. A number of theories have been put forward about the cause, and the hypothesis historically most supported by scientists is that the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation, which transports warm water from the Equator towards the North Pole, was interrupted by an influx of fresh, cold water from North America into the Atlantic.
Right now, it’s looking like that may have already started: Study: Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation. If that’s the case, things will become very hot and then abruptly freeze, not over the course of a century, but virtually overnight.
e: better link
The Day After Tomorrow.
Basically, yeah.
When you stop and actually think about our situation you realise how thin our operating margins are, we are at the mercy of whatever the planet does and our safety is subject to immediate dismissal should the conditions change. Worse of course are the random cosmic whims which could wipe us out instantly at any time e.g. comets, the sun going weird, etc.
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I’m a climate idiot. Does this somehow relate to ice ages, I wonder?
Ice ages typically happen due to very low insolation or the ability of solar energy to reach the surface of our planet. Insolation is a term often used when describing how much energy a solar panel can create.
Right now we have a big problem with too many greenhouse gases, which exacerbate the insolation we already have. It is heating our oceans rapidly, thus causing the break up of ice sheets in the Arctic and Antarctica. At some point the oceans won’t be able to absorb the heat we are receiving and air temperatures will begin to rise as well. Equilibrium. Hence Venus by Tuesday.
(like how ice keeps your drink from heating up)
Narrator: … Thus solving the problem once and for all.
Suzie: But–
Narrator: Once and for all!
So maybeish, so there is the possibility that warming of the oceans will cause the large ocean currents to slow/stop. This will reduce the amount of mixing of ocean water. Causing greater salinity and temperature gradients in the oceans relative to latitude. Making the Arctic ocean colder and the tropical ocean warmer. This colder Arctic ocean would lead to lower Arctic temperatures and an increase in ice, increasing the albedo of earth. The higher albedo would reflect more sunlight cooling the planet into an ice age.
Having said all that it is important to note, first if this happens it will be on geologic time scales. So the planet will still get a lot hotter first. Second it is just a hypothesis, we don’t know what is going to happen on a longer scale because this period of warming is unprecedented in earth’s history. Yes it has been hotter and had higher CO2 levels, but not anywhere the speed of chance we have had in the last 100years. So using past trends to predict the current change will be vague at best.
TLDR: it is still going to get a lot hotter before any chance of getting colder.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but this warm ocean leading to cold poles is one of the suspected mechanisms that cause repeated glacial/interglacial periods in ice ages, right?