cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/63938

Written by u/BoycottUSA4Now on Reddit

It’s so pathetic, reading how some Americans believe Trump’s lies. Trump is doing the right thing, they wonder why a president hasn’t done it before. Some Americans obviously are very simple and uneducated. Unbelievable. Nevertheless, we must not forget that there is still another America. Americans who go along with this boycott.

I used to live for about a year in the USA, years ago. None of my friends there voted for Trump, they are as much shocked as me. These Americans do also exist! So what are my reasons and those around me (Germany) for the boycott? Even before the election, Trump only stirred up hatred and spoke of revenge. All opponents would be eliminated. The criminals who stormed the Capitol in Nazi SS style, where there were even deaths, were pardoned. They are free and now the heroes.

Trump is not interested in the victims and their families, just as he is only interested in power and nothing else. Trump denies all scientific knowledge. Climate change is denied. Trump is de facto ending democracy in the USA. He has indirectly announced exactly that: You only have to vote once more, then no more. Trump fights any other opinion. Trump is dissolving important institutions such as the Ministry of Education etc. (Germany is already successfully recruiting good US scientists, just as the USA used to do.) Trump is only interested in money. Trump is not interested in people, not even Americans. He is only interested in himself and power. Trump lies constantly, only a few have the opportunity to contradict him, as Macron skillfully and kindly did on camera when Trump as always gave completely false data about the support for Ukraine. Pentagon deletes images of black World War II soldiers! He changes history.

All together. Trump is a dictator. Right now he is turning the USA into a dictatorship that is not better than China or Russia. These are some of the reasons. It has nothing to do with tariffs. As far as I know, Merz, the next Chancellor of Germany, was the first to say it, albeit indirectly like everyone else: the USA is the new enemy of Germany, of Europe, of the entire Western world, of the free world, to which the USA no longer belongs and can no longer belong in the future after this loss of trust, which cannot be repaired and will continue to put a strain on the relationship between Western democracies for a very, very long time after Trump, also in the case if US democtatie should survive Trump. The relationship between the USA and Western democracies is over for the foreseeable future. The West has already started to move towards a future without the USA. This will continue, and on a massive scale. Politicians from different countries have now said it several times: The West needs a new leading power. Nobody wants the USA anymore, because the USA is the enemy. And that has nothing to do with tariffs.

There are certainly many other reasons that can be added, such as the perverse game with Ukraine, which has shown the full malice of this perverse US government. Many reasons to boycott, but certainly not tariffs. They could simply be reciprocated and that would be fine, no more needed.

  • Libb@jlai.luEnglish
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    7 days ago

    USA has obviously lost its way. It was hard to watch the orange one say to Ukraine they could go fuck themselves (despite the promises to protect them) and to say the same to us too, in his typical illiterate racist asshole manner.

    But he only said out loudly what a lot of is friends are thinking. I don’t know about you but I prefer to know what someone thinks about me, it makes things much simpler. But the USA not respecting us and not respecting its word doesn’t make the USA our enemies.

    The USA are sick of… the exact same disease that is spreading in the EU too, just not as quickly as it has ravaged them. The proud idiocy. A quickly rising illiteracy and non-education, coupled with a frenetic turning back to some kind of ‘fundamental’ or ‘traditional’ values that can be anything but rationality and/or sciences.

    Meanwhile, our real enemies which, I insist, are not the USA but all those other countries and regions of the world that want our Western societies (and all of us, with all our ‘immoral’ lifestyles) to be gone, meanwhile those are exploiting our very own hysterical stupidity to try to further divide us.

    Maybe we should question if that’s really a good idea to help them achieve that goal?

    For now, what we should thrive for is to try to keep in touch with whatever remain of a working democracy in the USA. Judging by what I can see and read coming from there, there isn’t much left of if that is working.

    That, much more than Trump and his many tantrum, is what should worry us because a democracy is all about safeguards and control (no one controls it, no one is supposed to own it, thx to the many safeguards). The vanishing of any safeguard able to stop an aberration like the orange one to get (and to get back!) to power is the telltale sign of a failing democracy. Trump is just the symptom of the disease and he will go away, if not in four years at the very least the day he dies (peacefully, of old age). But the structural failure of the US democratic system that were supposed to prevent anything remotely like Trump to ever grab the power? That is the real issue. And that issue won’t fix itself that easily.

    We should also send all our support to whatever non ‘MAGA’ working brain power remains in the USA. They badly need all the love they can get.

    We also need to watch and to listen carefully to what’s happening there, and analyze how it’s happening. To prevent it from happening here. We are democracies too. With too many failing safeguards too. They’ve started failing a few decades ago in my country (France), and they’re still failing to day in front of our very eyes. And we rejoice, because… here too, that proud idiocy is on the quick rise with its vocal ‘demands’ and its short-sighted certainties.

    Maybe ours won’t wear a silly buffalo costume when they will attempt their own coup, but I doubt they will look much smarter.

    To resist that, we need to listen to what’s happening here in the EU, not just in the USA, the sharp decline in education (the illiteracy of kids is real) and the rise of of a so-called ‘fundamentalism’ (often religious) ore the longing for ‘traditional values’ is not happening only the USA. And we also need to not mistake a sick friend, no matter how poorly he behaves, with our enemies.

    If we want the current failing of the USA to remain an exception, and a short lived one as I have little doubt they can get back to their senses, maybe we should start by looking at what is happening around us here too and resist it.

    I don’t want to boycott the USA because they’re acting like assholes, I want to promote EU-made solutions and tools because I want us to be able to not depend as much on the USA anymore—we now know how quickly they can change mood and forget their own word. I don’t want to punish the USA because they’re sick right now, I want them to get better. As quickly as possible.

    Meanwhile, I want us to prepare for the same illness that has already started spreading in the EU too. We’re not better and we’re not smarter than the Americans, but watching them stumble we could prepare better.

    And I want us to stop mistaken who our actual enemies are. There are plenty. USA is not one of them. Not yet.