• Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    Surely them doing the Nazis salute counts as cultural appropriation. The right-wing German should be complaining about it. They need to come up with their own salutes

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      Didn’t we used to do the nazi salute for the pledge of allegience before ww2? I remember reading it somewhere but also FUCK NAZIS

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      Somebody should tell him that if he’s going to be a Nazi then he needs to have acquire a snazzy sense of style. He looks like a random old man down the sports bar.

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    Ya know…as much as I hated Bush in his day, he was never a nazi. I called him a LOT of things over the years…but I never remember calling him a nazi.

    How the fuck are we living in a timeline where a president who used a terrorist attack as justification for invading countries that never had anything to do with it, is now looked at as “he wasn’t so bad…”

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      My dearly departed gramps would agree. Man was on the ground walking across France and Germany on a mission to free concentration camps. He wouldn’t describe it in any further detail than that, ever, but he would shut down any murmur of racism. Silence a room shut down.

      We lack that now which is why hx is coming back around again.

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        I think it’s interesting* that as soon as everyone with a firsthand account of Nazis dies, Nazism comes roaring back. It’s as though there’s no generational memory in society.

        *not to imply it’s good, it’s horrifying.

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        It’s so sad that we are going to get this costly lesson again. It would be better if the guillotines came out, rather than panzer tanks.

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    This was a nazi salute, or at least a reference to it, you can obviously see it. However, and this is where it becomes slightly problematic…

    Is it enough of a nazi salute to not work in their favor? We can easily compare Elons salute with a nazi one, just show it side by side with an actual one. But this one is obviously (you can see it on his face) meant to reference it, but it is not as explicit. The problem is that when it is called out, it is just another case of “the woke left screaming that everyone that disagrees with them is a nazi”.

    I have no idea how we should handle shit like this.

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      I was hesitant at first, but like. What the hell else is he doing? He isn’t gesturing to emphasize something he’s saying, he isn’t waving at anyone, he isn’t addressing the crowd. Literally the only thing it can reasonably be is a heil.

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          And thats the idea. Burn you out so you just lie there until they have finished. Like a good little victim.

          Baring the opportunity to just stab the assailant: The solution of course is to make a repeatable pattern of defiance which costs you nothing of your mental capacity but makes a difference if done at scale.

          • Post about it “this is what you voted for”
          • make a list of nazi controlled companies you will never buy from again unless its life or death and share the list
          • reframe your wording and thinking: the us is a failed state, a fascist state, ruled by nazis, educate yourself on what actually happened in the third reich and educate others, start hanging the us flag upside down, use suggestive avatars on social media (careful with your surroundings).

          This all in itself wont change anything but at scale it will shift the public eye and make things better, bit by bit.

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      The difference is Bannon knows what he’s doing, while Ellonie is a moron.

      Bannon did it just half-heartedly enough to throw doubt into it when asked. Elon tried his best.

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      That shit isn’t contained in the US unfortunately. As much as the right say that they are against globalism and globalists like Soros they have been manipulated by the biggest globalist. The entire international swing towards fascism in the West has been orchestrated by Putin. He is the New World Order. We will be seeing more Nazis take power across the world.

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        kind of a meme, because that’s what they’re claiming the gesture means.

        also kinda not.

        stay safe and organise.

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        German here.
        This is pretty much exactly how Hitler got to power.
        You’re welcome

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          I wonder how he’s feeling right now, watching what’s happening up on earth. His old enemies, who destroyed him 80 years ago, are now wololoing themselves to his side. Dude must be confused.

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    Bannon is white fucking trash anyway. Not just saying that because he looks like human excrement but because he has the personality of a roasted maggot.