I don’t think we should normalize misgendering somebody as an insult. He’s a fascist, not a woman or trans person.

Guess they’re just smarter than you

Perfect. I said something similar the last time this sort of rhetoric came out of a coworker’s mouth. Literally what I said about begging on the streets and making 6 figures was what he said. I said “that’s not happening, at least not for more than maybe up to 5 people, and if you don’t believe me then why don’t you just do that instead of working harder and making less?” The response was some bullshit about not wanting to be a drain on society and how he would feel bad taking money he didn’t earn. And yet his goal is to buy a few houses and rent them out so his housing is paid for by other people. Pointing out the irony to him would be a waste of breath.

My mom hasn’t worked in a decade. Survives off of snap and my dad’s SSDI survivor benefits. She STILL buys the whole welfare queen narrative.

Of course she does. She is said welfare queen. I’m sure she’d try to explain how it’s not the same thing, but the reality is that she believes that she’s earned (there’s that word again) what she’s receiving, implying that others haven’t. I would have trouble maintaining a close relationship with somebody who holds these beliefs.

Thankfully, nobody ever becomes homeless due to losing their job and struggling to find a new one. Robust social safety nets have ensured that the only people who find themselves homeless are lazy pieces of shit who are actively trying to be in their situation. They prey upon people’s generosity by begging in the streets and raking in 6 figures.

Big fat fucking /s because holy shit, I’ve actually encountered people who believe bullshit like that. I lived in my car for a little while, but thankfully I still had a job and there was a shower I could use at work. Only an absolute fucking ghoul would prey upon the unhoused.

Do both. An armed community can defend itself. Protect your neighbors. Fascists will be less likely to use their guns on you if your community has guns to fire back with. Build your community and then be able to defend it.

Oh I’m aware of that, but every time this playbook has been attempted, the perpetrators have been thoroughly smacked down. What makes them think that they’ll have a different outcome? And even if they do, don’t they see that absolutely controlling a pile of shit is worse than half controlling something that works? Musk already has hundreds of billions of dollars, and he’s threatening that by doing this. Trump already has billions and is president, and these actions are probably gonna get him some more attempts. The lackeys might be at risk of losing things if they don’t obey, but that doesn’t explain why they’re receiving the marching orders in the first place.

Sure, but why? To what explicit end? What is there to gain from getting rid of whoever their targets are? Idk if I’m overthinking it or underthinking this, but it kinda seems to me like this ends up making things worse for them too in the long run. So I just don’t get it.

Revoking the right to abortion makes sense to me. They need more consumers and laborers to feed to the capitalism machine to perpetuate the infinite growth that it demands. I don’t subscribe to it, but it does make sense to me that they would be on board with that. Culling the “undesirables” however doesn’t really make sense to me. I don’t know of a single thing that improves because of that. Fewer laborers, especially fewer desperate ones. Paired with tariffs, fewer consumers both foreign and domestic. Fewer tax payers. Most of who they would target are probably renters and not land owners, so more vacancies but not new unowned land, so rent prices and property value would drop. So who the fuck wins? Racists who care less about their account balance than the skin color of people in their town? Couldn’t they just stay home and have that and their money too?

Yep. My immediate thought after reading this headline was of the couple times he looked like he was gonna cry because people were celebrating the downfall of Tesla and the time he was streaming PoE2 and got bullied enough that he pretended to lag out and ragequit.

He’s truly a net negative contribution to the species, and he furthers that status with every breath. Maybe there could be some argument that putting money into stuff pushed companies to adopt new, greener technologies in order to compete, but his pro fascism agenda has completely negated any praises I might have ever sung. And I think he’s too deep to ever reverse course.

We know that he salutes like Hitler. Let’s all hope that he does that other thing like Hitler did that one time in late April of 1945. Epic memes ftw for the edgy memelord mastermind if he does it on the same day. 360 skibidi no scope rizz king shit.

If the beliefs, statements, or associations are lawful, then why and how does the government have the right to expel the person against their wishes? What does “lawful” even mean if the actions described as being “lawful” result in consequences by the state that serve as a punishment? Furthermore, are there beliefs, statements, or associations that would be regarded as “unlawful”? What are some examples of that? What would the punishment be for that?

What the fuck is the actual goal of this? Why facilitate such cruelty? What are these fucks getting out of this?

Everybody needs to arm themselves and learn how to shoot. Now. While it’s still possible to. If they’re not gonna follow the Constitution, then you’re no longer guaranteed your day in court to seek justice, so there’s no longer any reason to “come quietly”. If your sentence is to be death anyway, then violent resistance may be the only route to deter cops from continuing to violate their oath and kidnapping/murdering other innocents. Do it for them.

Most cops are like black bears. They’ll rush you and try to intimidate you into doing what they want, but if you make it clear that they’re gonna get hurt or killed if they try, they’ll tuck tail and run. They’re cowards cosplaying as tough guys. Make them ask themselves whether this is worth maybe not getting home to their families over. Give them nightmares. Terrorism is attacking them where they peacefully are; I’m just saying to terrorize from within your own home to scare them off. They might come back with SWAT, but make them burn those resources all the same. They don’t have infinite equipment and enforcers, and they’ll ration it all well before getting low. They’ll have riots to quell, so they can’t put too many resources into every little kidnapping.

As John Lewis said, “Get in good trouble, necessary trouble, and redeem the soul of America.”

You okay? Did something happen to you?

What are you talking about? Who has a secretary and is thinking of marrying them?

My spouse and I depend on each other. We’re a team. We’re coequal partners. I think it’s insane not to see marriage that way. We each are individually strong, but even stronger together. Making money isn’t the only thing that can be done to support the family.

This. I would love it if my wife had the option to stay home. We’re luckier than most, so she probably could, but our budget would be uncomfortably tight if she did. And actually, if she made as much as I do, it’d probably be me staying home and doing the cooking and cleaning and errands. I love that shit and hate work, and the excessive hours I work keep me from helping around the house as much as I would like.

You know what we should do to the rich?

Edam.

And I respect the hell out of that.

Reminder for the upset but unarmed to get moving on becoming armed and competent. Legal immigrants are now being kidnapped and shipped to prisons outside of the US; how long before they start doing it to you? Defend yourself, your family, your friends, and your neighbors. It’s no longer reasonable to wait to argue the point in court if their plan is to disregard your right to due process.

And on top of that, there is a baseline cost to existing. Even basic shelter and average supplies would eat up a significant chunk of $50k. Spending $20M on a mansion and premium supplies is a drop in the bucket for somebody like Musk, yet that’s literally not something most of us would even dream of having because we could think of much better uses for $20M than just having upgraded shit with such diminishing returns for its cost.

For those in the back, this is also why it would be fucking stupid for a working class person to advocate for replacing income tax with increased sales tax. The wealthy don’t spend their money like you do, so they’re keeping even more of their hoards if they can successfully trick enough people into eradicating their income tax bill.

Lol what? Idk what “news” story you’re referencing, but it’s entirely irrelevant here. Wildly pivoting to an entirely different topic like this is irrefutable proof that you’re wrong, have realized you’re wrong, and refuse to confront and admit that you’re wrong. This thread is also old now, so nobody is even following this anymore anyway. As such, any further engagement would be a total waste of my time, so I’m out.

Good luck figuring shit out. I don’t need to convince you; the future will do that for me.

Username checks out.

Lol okay, keep not understanding. You aren’t putting together that rescinding rights guaranteed to people means that all you need to do is claim that somebody is in that group that doesn’t get rights and they no longer have rights to things like a trial. I could literally just call you an illegal immigrant and you’d never get the opportunity to prove otherwise because you wouldn’t have the right to anymore.

As for the “ILLEGAL immigrants” thing, there’s a difference between civil offenses and criminal offenses. If you don’t even know that, then idk where you get off thinking you get to lecture anybody about how laws work. I’m sorry to say that you’re just flat out fucking wrong about this. Quit parroting what partisan media is spoon-feeding to you and look shit up for yourself. They benefit by convincing you to accept the bullshit that they’re selling. Be more skeptical. Any time you see something on media, ask yourself who is benefiting from the message they’re sending out.