• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    No man, not all at.

    Not only that, but Orwell has become a dog whistle of the right complaining about social justice issues of the left.

    Orwell predicted big brother that was an allegory for communism. Where they threw you in jail for wrong think. Hence why the far right love talking about him.

    Imo what we are seeing is far closer to the slow collapse of an empire. The overall process is decay, where it’s like a free for all and crabs in a bucket mentality.

    Bottom line is, things are falling apart due to incompetence, not a very competent entity taking full control.

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      3 months ago

      Orwell was a leftist who wrote from a leftist perspective. 1984 is about Stalinism specifically and totalitarianism generally. It is not about communism, unless your definition of “communism” only includes the Soviet variety.

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        I’m not saying Orwell is only about communism, I’m actually agreeing that Orwell’s book was something rather specific that doesn’t apply 100% to today.

        Today’s situation is shaping to be more like the Wild West where anything goes as long as your rich enough instead of a single omnipresent entity having full control.

        • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Except that the oligarchs are now using the legal system to create an oppressive regime for the working class. In the meantime they’ll get to stabbing at each other. In the end, monarchy will remain.

          Monarchism is the only end for capitalism (according to Marx’ Das Kapital …and the steady march of history has been consistent so far with this). So for those who disparage capitalism, they’re choosing the despotic totalitarian situation that Washington fought against during the origin of the US.

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            Oh I 100% agree that feudalism is the end goal of capitalism, I actually think the US is getting too unstable for that. Imo civil war is closer than full on dictatorship, or at least I hope so.

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      3 months ago

      Yeah, more like this guy was right.

      Every day Huxley is proven more correct than Orwell because through the magic of SOMA (addictive phones hitting dopamine rushes), people can be surrounded with the truth and completely ignore it, and as you said, pay for the privilege of being lied to because it feels nice. (And oh man, that’s a major industry on OnlyFans, being lied to because it feels nice)

      Huxley understood our desires could break us more than our hate.

      I can’t find it, but I recall an interview with Zizek around when Snowden dropped his leaks, and it was about how it really changed nothing, and he was noting how the revelations of torture during the Iraq War had changed nothing either. He thought disclosure was a moot point now, society was checked out. He was right.

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        3 months ago

        The “Amusing Ourselves to Death” comic does a good job showing how Huxley did a better job predicting the future.

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          It seems to me that they were both right. If I didn’t know better, I’d be inclined to think that the wealthy and powerful used their works as a roadmap instead of a warning.

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            3 months ago

            The fascist jocks think Orwellian tactics will work because they get to run around hurting people in the process. The fascist nerds think the Huxley addiction to distraction will work because they get to sell billions of dollars of ads in the process.

            They’re both fascists though, and something is going to have to happen to change that.