Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.

He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.

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    And that’s why Kamala’s stance on Palestine never bothered me.

    I knew that as bad as it was, Trump would be worse.

    I was right.

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    Here are my thoughts:

    • Israel has been committing genocide in Gaza since day 1, they just pick up the pace sometimes
    • Every US president this century has enabled this
    • Biden and Harris were all on board with the current round of fast genocide and they should be remembered for it
    • Trump pretends to be anti-war but emboldened this shit by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem in 2018 or 19
    • Netanyahu wanted Trump to win, as evidenced by meeting him during the campaign last year
    • Any ceasefire supposedly happening right now is entirely to give Trump good press. He’s going to give Israel even more support for their imperialist bullshit than Biden did and Harris would have
    • Because Trump won, the federal government is going after immigrants, nonwhite people, LGBT people, etc, and is going to further tear the good parts of the government down

    I’m pretty disillusioned with the Democrats between the imperialism and almost completely giving in to the fascist takeover, but I wouldn’t be looking to get out of the country if Harris had won, so thanks for that if you could have voted and didn’t.

    edit: I voted Uncommitted in the primary, helped out at my local Gaza camp, and have gone to rallies and distributed books about Palestine, so I’m not just sitting here at my computer saying all this

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      Exactly. Why can’t people vote for the lesser evil in the short term and push for change after the election too. There was no scenario where the protest vote didn’t give us a far worse option. As bad as Biden was on Gaza, he capitulated more than Trump ever will. Plus, one issue voting is just an insane mindset in a winner take all electoral system like America.

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      Honestly. And I mean honestly.

      Why is America so be bed with Israel? Is it just purely a tactical location or is there way more underhand shit we can’t talk about because if you call someone out for doing something they shouldn’t and they are Jewish then you’re a Nazi?

      People must be getting bribes and threats and more people in the government must care about Israel than the number of people that care about Palestinian.

      Surely people don’t care that much about that patch of sand.

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      almost completely giving in to the fascist takeover

      Did you see the pictures of Kamala and Mike Johnson smiling as they watched the vote count on January 6?

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      Don’t worry, I voted… for the non-genocidal actual progressive candidate, Jill Stein.

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    Protest voters looking more and more stupid by the day. And will continue to do so every day for the next 4 years minimum.

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    Native Americans suggest Americans should leave, “Just clean out “ the whole country, allow it to be rewilded and return to how it should be.

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    WHERE ARE ALL THE GENOCIDE JOE BOTS AT??? Fucking idiots, I can’t believe people got swayed by such obvious propaganda into not voting.

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    Great fucking job, bothsiders. Now you get Genocide++.

    I really hope you’re happy that your conscience is clean now the guy who’s main spokesman said Gaza’s ‘waterfront property could be very valuable’ and who himself declared it ‘could be better than Monaco’, clearly with an eye towards beachfront real estate, has the power to make that happen for his own gain.

    This was entirely predictable, and we told you this would happen. Trump told you so himself. The dems weren’t perfect by any stretch, but Kamala absolutely wasn’t looking at the situation as to how she could personally profit through real estate development if the Palestinians were just wiped off the map as quickly as possible. Trump likely had the choicest property mapped out, with property developers already submitting proposals.

    If you abstained because of both-sides re Israel, fuck you. You at best were played and at worst helped to play others, and now we ALL get to suffer.

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      The dems weren’t perfect by any stretch

      Totally.

      Enthusiastically helping Israel stack bodies for four years was definitely imperfect.

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        Of everything I said, that’s the part you decided to focus on?

        e: not that trump had said he’d glass the region to build hotels?

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          I could not care less about what Trump says.

          I heard Biden, for four years, wring his hands publicly and pretend to give a shit, all while giving WMD’s to Israel every single time they demanded it, in full knowledge they were bombing hospitals, schools and kids.

          What I care about is what’s actually being done, and in the short-term, Trump’s actions are improving the situation. I’m sure his reasons for this are some form of self-enrichment, and I doubt that it will last, but that remains to be seen. Right now, things are better than they were a few weeks ago for the people in Gaza.

          Biden allowed the genocide to continue literally to his last day in office, despite all the soaring speeches and public statements he made about peace.

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        You’re right! If both options are bad, then we SHOULD let the worse one win!

        Hurray!

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          You don’t have any objective facts you can point to here to demonstrate that Trump is worse than Biden, and in the short-term, Trump is substantially better. The genocide continued literally up to the last day of Biden’s presidency.

          That’s the point. Calling the Democrats ‘imperfect’ on Israel isn’t just wrong, it’s vulgarly and sickeningly euphemistic.

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      Great fucking job, bothsiders. Now you get Genocide++.

      Sound like you still haven’t acknowledged the ongoing genocide or understand what is going on in gaza. There’s no such thing as genocide or genocide++ the same way there’s no holocaust or holocaust++. People who chose not to support any scum with blood on their hands have no guilt, they did the correct thing. Assuming you supported the red and blue parties you have more guilt than everyone else, you gave your vote to murderers. Instead of telling you to go fuck off like you did i’m going encourage you to document yourself on what’s going on in gaza and how governments worldwide are allowing it to happen.

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        The genocide in Ukraine and everything that happens to minorities in the US is your fault if you didn’t vote Harris.

        Sitting on the sideline with your thumb up your ass wasn’t going to somehow give us Mr. Rogers as president.

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          The genocide in Ukraine and everything that happens to minorities in the US is your fault if you didn’t vote Harris.

          Think with your own head. People didn’t got their rights and freedom by supporting the lesser evil ruler. If the choice is between two murderers the correct thing to do is to be against them.

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      All this finger wagging because people criticized democrats sending billions in weapons which were used in the genocide? Somehow it’s protestors fault in this scenario.

      The degree to which you bend over backwards to support the legitimacy of a system where BOTH SIDES of the two-party system fully support israel is astonishing. You speak of others getting played, yet here you are getting played into thinking you can make a difference in a government that has fully supported israel since its establishment regardless of who is in power.

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=enb4WxWeH-Q

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      Genocide and Genocide++, if you admit those are the two major parties in the US then why do you blame people like me who voted third party?

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          so our options are genocide turd or genocide shit and it’s our fault? how about stop yelling online and do something about it irl

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            I have been for years.

            And no the choice was status quo genocide enabler and fascist genocide promoter.

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          There’s a chance that Trump can terminally weaken the US. He can’t wage a war on the entire world. The Democrats were focused on destroying the Middle East. The Republicans are less focused and more chaotic.

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            And why can’t they wage war on the world? What are we gonna do about?

            And seems Trump is laser focused on erasing Palestine and giving his donors everything they promised.

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      600-900 aid trucks are entering Gaza every day and the bombs have stopped falling.

      Trump talks shit a lot, but until he actually does something the situation now is far better than it was under Biden.

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        You’re kidding, right? You think that aid is because of trump, when you’re responding in an article that says his stated motives are the opposite of that?

        Much of that aid was already secured before he took office. Shit takes time – especially in a war zone. Wait a month or so and get back to me on whether aid from the US continues. The US has been giving aid to many places that will continue for a short while until the new policies filter through.

        Listen to what the new moron-in-chief says, and notice that some policies take a bit of time to take effect. Like the US economy, for instance. Large systems don’t turn on a dime.

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          They could have gotten that aid in any time they wanted. It doesn’t just take time, it takes political will. The trucks were already there and the aid was all ready to go, they just had to be let in the border by the Zionist entity. They needed a ceasefire.

          I’ll definitely be watching what happens over the next weeks and months, but how about we actually do that instead of catastrophize every time the moron in chief says something stupid that he can’t enforce? Forcing Egypt and Jordan to take 1.5-2 million refugees is about as likely as Trump actually annexing Greenland. This shit isn’t happening.

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            The fascists have done an incredible job lulling people into a false sense of security with “Trump just says outrageous things to trigger the libs he’ll never actually do anything”.

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            Agreed 100%. If all Democrats do for the next four years is scream the sky is falling then they will lose even more voters in 2028. You don’t run a pro-genocide candidate & parade around with the Cheney’s if the sky is falling. That is called trying to lose.

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              They will double down and keep screaming the sky is falling and whoever disagrees with them will be labeled Nazi/Fascist.

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        Can you elaborate?

        What about Trump’s arrival / Biden’s departure has enabled 900 aid trucks to start rolling into Gaza every day ?

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            You mean the pointless political charade to try and make trump look good as he proceeds to further enable and promote the genocide?

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              The genocide, at the moment, has entered a new phase without bombs or starvation. Let’s be clear: the genocide didn’t start on Oct 7th and it didn’t end with the ceasefire. Israel has always been a genocidal entity. We are just in a less violent phase.

              But even if this ceasefire is political it’s hardly a “charade”. It’s a real ceasefire! It’s really saving people’s lives! Without it, I don’t believe Gaza would have survived the winter - too much sickness and starvation. People are living right now who would otherwise be dead.

              Until Trump actually does something the situation is better now than it was under Biden.

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              It’s fascinating how the situation in Gaza is objectively better (for now), and you sound almost disappointed because it wasn’t Joe Biden who achieved it. (And in fact, Joe kept the genocide going until the very last day of his presidency.)

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                The ceasefire was agreed under Biden, before the inauguration… Biden is not good for Palestine, but Trump is not better.

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                  Yeah, but it was pressure from Trump that achieved it, because when Israel told Biden to jump, he did as he was told.

                  Hence why he earned the moniker: Genocide Joe.

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    It’s like those fairy tales Zionists try to convince you about that every belief system should seek their own nation. It’s easy to come up with free land when you have zero value for the people living on it.

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    Where do you send illegal immigrants if their country of origin no longer exists?

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    Oh sure, just take the Palestenians, and shove them somewhere else. Good, endless angry people consolidating on another territory.

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    How long until we hear about the plans for Dump Tower Gaza? Anyone wanna take a guess?

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    Congrats leftists! You solved Palestine! We just won’t have one!