• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    The Soviet Union lost 27 million people fighting the Nazis, wtf is this Nazi apologia?

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        9 days ago

        I won’t deny that they did some awful things, but to be like, “At least the Nazis paid the price” is completely whitewashing the atrocities that the Soviets suffered at the hands of the Nazis, it’s absolutely Nazi apologia to say that.

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          Sorry but you really need to do more learning. It is absolutely not apologia, it’s the facts - the Nazis paid the price by being subjected to war crimes trials, having their regime disassembled, and their country carved up and occupied by the allied powers for decades. USSR was subjected to nothing of the sort - it was actually the opposite, they were allowed to keep and drain the resources of all their conquored territories (even those unrelated to the Nazi regime).

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            9 days ago

            Except for all the Nazis who were recruited in Operation Paperclip, of course. Or the one who went on to become Head of NATO. Or all the Nazi companies like the one that manufactured Zyklon B and is known today as Bayer.

            Are you sure it’s not you who needs to do more learning?

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              9 days ago

              So your argument is that because some of their members able to go on and succeed, that somehow means the regime and country weren’t subject to harsh punishments after all?

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      9 days ago

      How many millions of that 27 million were shot by their own commissar for retreating, or from being used as cannon fodder in mass human wave attacks, where the hope was the Germans would run out of ammo?

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        You should do actual historical research instead of believing baseless and ridiculous propaganda. Tell me, where did you hear about any of those claims? Let me guess, Enemy at the Gates?

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          8 days ago

          Blood red snow, by Gunter Koschorrek. ISBN 9780760321980 - Diary extracts from a German soldier who fought on the Eastern front and saw some pretty terrible things.

          Not to mention all the stuff coming out of the Ukraine invasion, with Russian conscripts being shot for retreating by their commanders.