Oh I knew that’s why they were saying it, I just wanted to see what their asinine justification for the stance would have been had they responded.

Can I ask your reason for wanting this? (Preferably not just “their parents aren’t citizens, why should they be?”)

Somehow Ive missed hearing about either of these

Its a quote from Rogue One if I’m not mistaken

Why are you seemingly so bothered by this?

Did you actually read the text of the meme? The 2016 graph is to show that the electoral college can invalidate the popular vote.

There are 155 million levers. The plurality of the levers might win, but sometimes 46% of the levers is enough to beat 48% (this happened in 2016 due to the electoral college, see above) ----> big arrow pointing to the 2016 election results

Respectfully, I dont believe we’re going to shift each other’s views at a rate where it’s feasible to undertake this via a Lemmy thread. I will disengage from here, feel free to take this as a “win” if you’re the type of person to do that. I sincerely and genuinely wish you luck in your approach, I would love to be proven wrong.

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Thank you for totally failing to engage with anything I typed 👍

So, while in a perfect world, I agree with you… The current problem that exists is that opposite to Biden is Trump. And while Biden is currently engaging in a performance of seeing how quickly he can erase a red line after drawing it, Trump:

• Has on record stated that Israel must “finish the problem”
• Is the spearhead of the project 2025 plan
• Is also domestically terrible (to sum it up in one awful term… He’s hard-line “Anti-woke”)

Given the above, can you understand how, even though its a terrible, awful, disgusting decision to make, a lot of voters will want as many people as possible to still vote for Biden, despite acknowledging his terrible policy? How these voters understand what they are enabling, but they also understand that the alternative is the potential democratic collapse (project 2025) of the USA?

Edit: in addition to the above, what @jumjummy@lemmy.world also stands as needing to be answered… Where is the mass outraged call for the right to (in a non-antisemitic way) support Palestine if elected? As far as I’m concerned, ive not seen a single call to action for that side.

iT’S TeLlInG ThAt yOu dOnT

What is it telling of exactly? Is this meant to imply that pug supports the Israeli campaign? That they’re also a genocidal madperson?

If you’ll humor me for a moment… What happens if progressives pull support for biden and he doesn’t change his position? What is the outcome of that scenario?

When there is not enough popular support for the “best party”, and revolutionary overthrow is non viable, then the “true mark of anti-fascism” is knowing when to vote for the least bad party and then continue campaigning and canvassing to pressure for better policy and candidates

Its disgusting and it feels terrible, but (speaking broadly) if the progressive voter base leaves the a country’s primary “left leaning” party, then the party will reach instead for center right voters to fill that gap, driving the party further right.

I won’t tell you prescriptively who to vote for, but please, give it some thought in good faith

I think its probably possible to use a meme format without intending it to compare yourself to the subject of the meme

Letter paper (8.5" x 11" | 215.9mm x 279.4mm) is kinda sorta pretty close to A4 (8.27" x 11.69" | 210mm x 297mm) so without having the two next to each other, it can seem like A4 is just a funny piece of letter, and vice versa. But to answer the actual question, USA and Canada (and apparently the phillipines???) use the “North American Standard” which is a terrifying mess in comparison to the beauty that is the ISO standard.

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All community rules are bastards? Weird take

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Alright, let me walk back and apologize for my performative argumentation and be extremely clear about my opinion in the shortest, most sincere way I can do this.

• Fewer human drivers is good

• Fewer cars on the road at all is better

• Self driving does significantly increase the safety of roads, however increasing transit and reducing cars on the road increases safety for everyone by a larger margin

• While selfdriving is good to reduce the number of human caused accidents, telsa’s implementation is has no secondary sensors, and no map correlation for it’s vision results

• Even with self driving, car centric infrastructure steals valuable space that could be used for housing, transit or pedestrians

• Ultimately, I think our disconnect is that my argumentation made it seem like I dont support both (I was really unclear, I apologize) self driving is really awesome for road safety, but on it’s own, it still means there’s generally the same amount of cars on the road. Implementation of (reliable) self driving in combination with other regulatory changes such as larger public transit investment, stricter testing regulations, stronger punishments for breaking driving laws, and more regulation on where cars are allowed will do more than self driving on its own could ever do.

Sorry perhaps I was unclear. (Or perhaps you willfully misinterpreted me)

You want Tesla to create transit infrastructure?

I don’t think Tesla should be making anything as long as the current figurehead is in charge. Transit should always be public infrastructure… Not sure how you would have thought I was advocating for privatized public transit.

You honestly think there’s a person that exists that has done this?

I also never intended to suggest that self driving is pushing individuals from adopting transit… Moreso that the proverbial carrot of “fewer road accidents thanks to self driving” is likely to prevent regulators from taking the note effective steps of:

• reducing the number of drivers on the road with stricter testing and enforcement of road laws
• providing an alternative for those who can no longer drive via larger investment in public transit infrastructure

I understand it might not feel that way, but it’s the actual truth, we have massive amounts of data on this, and your feelings don’t outweigh that.

Yep. And fewer cars overall makes pedestrians safer as well. You dont want human drivers, I dont want cars

Sorry, have to disagree. Tesla’s special blend of vision-only driving and software built seemingly with generative ai leads to unsafe situations.

On top of that, self driving is a solution that keeps cars on the roads… Yucky. Make the driving tests stricter to weed out idiots and build much more robust transit infrastructure for everyone else.

Musk and Trump fan calling me a chud. Thats rich.