• Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    1 year ago

    Can we all agree the word “settler” can fucking do one here? You don’t “settle” already occupied land. You invade it.

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    Why were the settlers there? Why were they carrying guns there?

    They try to defend themselves with “they were throwing rocks at us”, but that clearly indicates they were up to something untoward there in the first place.

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      It’s a bit of the same old story.

      Israeli settlers: Dangerous terrorists attacking law enforcement, must be repressed without reservation.

      Rest of the world: Kids throwing pebbles at an armored vehicle because they hate those who killed or screwed over many of their acquaintances, without even a scratch or hindering their work.

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    1 year ago

    They did that for the Last 70 years and Western powers, champions of humans rights didn’t flinch. but they will sure that a dead dog in their backyard becomes concern of every other nation.

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    When I see pictures of small boys in the middle east (like 8 and 10 years old) gleefully carrying weapons, it makes me weep for the future of this world. There’s no chance a kid who feels weapons are his only chance of retribution is going to grow up not to want to kill other people.

    War is indeed a travesty, no matter who is fueling it. I hope this mindless conflict gets tamped down soon, and the world can try to move on from it.

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    1 year ago

    There is no HAMAS in the West Bank, what new lie is the Israeli State of Apartheid peddling now?

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    1 year ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    This brings the number of Palestinians reported killed by settlers to seven since Hamas’s bloody incursion into Israel three weeks ago.

    Tayseer Mahmoud said his nephew, Bilal Saleh, was working in the grove in the village of Sawiya with his wife and their four children on Saturday when a group of settlers attacked them.

    Settler leader Yossi Dagan said in a video posted on the social media p(platform Facebook Saturday that the shooter was accompanied by family members and fired in self-defense after they were “attacked with rocks by dozens of rioting Hamas supporters.”

    The deadly shooting took place amid a spike in settler violence since Hamas militants infiltrated Israel on Oct. 7, killing more than 1,400 Israelis and taking over 230 others hostage.

    In addition to the killings, Palestinians in the West Bank have reported attacks on people and property, as well as denial of access to their land.

    Since the outbreak of the war alone, more than 100 Palestinians, including civilians, have been killed, most during military arrest raids and violent protests in the West Bank.


    The original article contains 366 words, the summary contains 178 words. Saved 51%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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      1 year ago

      If he murders the person who murdered his father he would be a murderer.

      If he murders random civilians who were unrelated to the incident, then yes. He is a terrorist.

      Terror is terror. There is no excuse for intentionally targeting civilians. It’s murder at best, and terrorism at worst.

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        Your point would hold more weight if this was the only example of such an incident. His father wasn’t the first person he knew who was killed by an Israeli soldier…the same group that’s kept him behind barbed wire fences his whole life.

        I’m not excusing it but you’re way oversimplifying it. How could you blame a kid for demonizing all Israelis with all that he’s seen? It’s not like he’s been allowed to mingle with the good citizens of Israel even if they’re the majority

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          It’s not oversimplified. It’s a statement of principles.

          The reality of our world is that murderers walk free all the time. But saying “x caused y and we should fix the root cause of this” is wildly different than saying “can you blame him?” Because the answer to that is yes! You can blame him for choosing violence and choosing terror.

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            What did this hypothetical boy choose violence over? What should he have done instead?

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              If you truly believe that violence is the only answer the Palestinians have, then you’ve given up any hope for peace.

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                Feel free to answer my question on what other choice the boy has but to fight.

                Because the only other option I see in this boy is to die. Either self-inflicted, at the hands or those who liked your father, or slowly by starvation and disease.

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                  I’ll answer your question and hopefully you’ll answer mine.

                  The hypothetical boy could choose life. He could work in agriculture, or study, or literally just live his life. Palestinians are not starving on a daily basis, and certainly not in the west bank. He can go on with his life, get married, have kids, and literally choose to move on and not take violent revenge.

                  Now my question for you: do you support Hamas?

                  I ask because It sounds like you drank the Hamas koolaid. Their charter literally state that every Palestinian must engage in violent resistance, and have no alternative.