• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    5 hours ago

    Revolution has already happened in quite a few countries, one of them with one of the largest economies and populations on the planet. It’s more a matter of time.

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      5 hours ago

      So, while we wait for the inevitable revolution, why not bring back the New Deal?

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        It wouldn’t be terrible if it happened, but there’s no path to actually making that happen that wouldn’t make more sense to go for revolution. Even when congress was more controlled by the Democrats, no such program emerged.

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            No, I’m not. The conditions that led to the New Deal are entirely different from the conditions of today, so we must reexamine if such a program could be forced into passing today. I don’t believe there’s a path to that, unless there is already revolutionary pressure bubbling and risking the entire system.

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              I don’t believe there’s a path to that, unless there is already revolutionary pressure bubbling and risking the entire system.

              There’s the problem right there. You’re ready to throw away any progress because it isn’t perfect

              You guys saw Ronald Reagan, but couldn’t get behind Carter because he wasn’t good enough.

              Same with Bush and Gore, and Clinton and Trump.

              You guys are the biggest friends the Right ever had.

              Heck, go back to the 1930s. The Fascists then labeled themselves Anti-Communist and reaped the rewards.

              The road to hell is paved with good intentions. That’s all you have. good intentions.

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                  2 hours ago

                  Great way to build a powerful coalition.

                  Seriously, I’m so impressed your mommy hasn’t put parental controls on your posting.

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                You can’t just pray progress into existence. If this second New Deal has no electoral path to implementation, it doesn’t exist, and ergo isn’t progress. To the contrary, based on the analysis of our conditions I have done, I think revolution is genuinely more feasible than passing the New Deal again, and moreover a New Deal would not stop Imperialism, we’d need revolution anyways.

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                  You can’t just pray progress into existence

                  Except there was actual progress under Carter, Clinton, and Obama. It wasn’t huge, but it was progress. You choosing to ignore it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

                  You’re the one who has gone faith based. You can’t give me one actual fact to make me think the USA is anywhere near a Socialist revolution.

                  And I can point to Blackwater and the other mercenary companies to show that if the Revolution comes, it will be instantly subverted.

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                    There was decay under all of those, though. The US has been getting worse, using a bucket on a sinking tanker will not fix the underlying problems, we need a solution, not another bucket.

                    As for revolution, it is neither easy nor impossible, but rather difficult and possible. Studying revolution proves this consistently true.