Pretty surprised, I was kind of expecting it to slip past its supposed spring release just due to its enormous success. Excited to play drm-free, especially after all of the rave reviews.

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    It’s really good. Incredibly frustrating and challenging combat but good once it clicks. The rest of the RPG elements are amazing. Except lockpicking. Fuck that nonsense.

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          The one frustrating system i can’t deal with.

          Seriously though, lockpicking irl isn’t as difficult as the game makes it seem even if you were picking modern locks. On medieval locks it should be a joke to pick them yet Henry can’t hold the pick still for half a second so it’s “nope, fuck you gamer”.

          Ah well no game is perfect.

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            Like all of Henry’s skills, he sucks at the start.

            You are him. So you’ve got some faint knowledge that it can be done, but no idea how exactly, and with rudimentary tools to boot.

            Just like you IRL, it takes Henry learning how locks fundamentally work, what picking is actually doing inside, then getting better at the feel of it. And just like IRL, Henry gets good at lock picking quite quickly after some practice and being shared knowledge. Sure enough, he too soon understands how easy mediaeval locks are.

            All of the skills are like this by design. You may think something is easy, but Henry don’t. He knows as much as you did before you looked into it.

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              Yeah, that argument falls apart when henry just randomly moves the pick even though you didn’t move the controller. That’s the portion that I get pissed off at. Fine that he has shit skills, fine that the game has to make it artificially harder for RP. But don’t make me fail at something just because the game doesn’t want me to complete it yet. Just make it not pickable. When something says “easy” it should be actually easy if you know the patterns or method of doing said thing. Like how combat is easier once you realize you can’t spam swing your sword. There is no such thing for lockpicking. It’s just “fuck you gamer, grind it out like a chump” or break tons of picks trying to get the one fiddly rng location to unlock the lock.

              Edit: Also he picks locks in the first game doesn’t he? So he just forgets how locks work because of his fall? Bad design imo but a great game other than that one system.

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                Yeah, that argument falls apart when henry just randomly moves the pick even though you didn’t move the controller.

                Literally—well at least from the devs and ever since KCD1—that’s how it works.

                How else would they express how noob he is?

                Look at Henry like you look at yourself 10 years ago. So confident, knew so much less. He’s your intern. Interns are frustrating. You were also a frustrating fumbler at the beginning of everything you learned.

                That “random” movement increases the further through the lockpick acrion he gets. But when he’s skilled, it doesn’t. He’s patient and gentle with the tension.

                What more could you want from a lockpicking system that’s super basic for all gamers but still represents the reality of someone learning lockpicking?

                Edit: Also he picks locks in the first game doesn’t he? So he just forgets how locks work because of his fall? Bad design imo but a great game other than that one system.

                The immersion of this is all explained. I highly recommend you play KCD1, though it is more challenging and realistic in skilling and especially combat. You have to teach him to read before you can read lockpicking books, for example. Becaue obviously not many people knew how to then, especially a blacksmith’s boy in a small village. You can, yes. Henry can’t. And if you try read it appears as gibberish to you, slowly getting better as he learns.

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            It gets substantially easier with every level. I’m almost maxed out and opening even the hardest locks is a piece of cake.

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        I never played the first one but i’m a fan of challenging games. From what i’ve read after getting my ass beaten by single random bandits, the combat is better and more fluid than the first game. Fewer locked in animations is what i gather is the biggest change.

        The one thing you really have to get in your brain is do not spam attacks. You will die. Your stamina is like armor in that the lower your stamina the more it hurts to be hit.

        Like i said, once it clicks it’s great but boy oh boy was it frustrating to learn.

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        OK, but it isn’t available on GOG until March 28th and I never buy games on release.

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          But this is a contract thing between steam and game studio, or at least I assume. The only thing different is the launcher. The content of the game is going to be the same as the one that’s been out on steam. It’s not like its a console vs PC delayed release where the game is made for different platforms. If you bought it March 28th itd be the same as not buying rhe steam game on its release date and waiting a couple months to get it end of March.

          I’m more asking if my understanding is correct to the general audience, sounds like im lecturing but more walking thru the bases to see if im missing something.

          I mean I owned fo4 on steam, bought folon on gog and had no problem playing them together so its all the same exact game codes after it launches, right?