Governor? It’s he really referring to the Canadian prime Minister as though he is the governor of a state? And they said Biden was losing his grasp on reality.
Probably but I don’t think we’ve had an actual doctor come to any conclusion and probably won’t until he’s dead. Barring that Trump does the same shit but instead of freezing he just goes full word salad. It also seems like he’s having some pretty severe mobility issues.
Yeah that’s still fucking dumb because it’s not a state. You don’t call the car you want to buy “your car” because it just isn’t.
Well no, Putin couldn’t openly declare war without forcing Europe to get involved, if they claim it’s anything else we’ll that’s more grey.
He’s using serious channels and conventions to deliver deeply unserious ultimatums in order to consolidate attention and create confusion. He will do the same exact thing as the tariffs if it gets to a point of actual mobilization.
“Trump withdraws troops from Canadian border for fifth time this month”
And while everyone is reeling and scared and wondering what the fuck will happen tomorrow, Elon and his little cronies are literally hauling cash out the back door.
Well he might seriously get us into a literal war with our neighbors, but it’s not because he gives a shit about politics or international anything. He’s doing a cash-grab right now with and for his donors and sponsors and his family. He is not serious about anything he says because he’s not telling anyone what his actual motivations are.
Serious in this context doesn’t mean “not joking” but rather means “with a real intention of affecting political change.”
I’m not convinced he’s not serious about what he says. I assume everything is a trial balloon. But more importantly, his entire cabinet nods along to his words and the media does not push back.
I noticed Trump on his speech last night mis-spoke and paused for a split second then kind of half way changed the message to make his error a non error in the “new message”
You do if you want to steal said car and then turn around and tell everyone that it was actually yours to begin with
We know its a lie. He knows it’s a lie. Probably even the idiots who vote for him know its a lie. But if you say a lie enough times and people don’t tell you to fuck off, it becomes the truth.
The same way that people are taught that the american civil war was fought for states rights, not slavery, when we know that most of the states seceded because of slavery
Man Palestine was an entire country up until 1947 and now you find people.saying that it never existed and was always Israeli land.
These lies do work, and they are used as justification after the fact. Again, very similar to how Putin also said Ukraine wasn’t really a country and was part of Russia.
But it is literally the truth. Even Mandatory Palestine wasn’t “Palestine” as in “Free Palestine!” More importantly it’s irrelevant to Canadian sovereignty.
Honest question, although I don’t expect an answer, more food for thought. Should Canada invest more into our domestic defence industry? How picky should we be about who we sell weapons to? How about who we do business with? I think the answers will vary based upon how seriously you take Trump’s “jokes” about annexation, and there is certainly going to be lots of disagreement, but this is something we all should consider.
Another more pertinent consideration, how important is a politician’s commitment to Canadian sovereignty? I’ve been reflecting on this since Doug Ford won the Ontario election again, and contrasting him to Pierre Poilievre. I don’t know what your political preferences are, but would you consider Canadian sovereignty more important than say, education? What compromises and how much sacrifice is acceptable for continued sovereignty?
I’m sorry if I come across as aggressive, but Canada is getting knocked down a step on the metaphorical Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs for Nations. Certainly I support more trade with the EU and our CANZUK brothers. But what about China? I support Taiwan’s continued existence as whatever it is, but should we deepen trade ties with China if it helps support Canadian sovereignty? If so, how much?
It’s still early days, but we have to get our heads in the game. Again I don’t know your political inclinations, but I’m pretty sure for me, if you support Canadian sovereignty, than right now we’re allies no matter what else. For me there are limits on my questions above, but I don’t know where they are, they’re pretty far out. I’ll row on the left or right side of the boat, I don’t care so much right now so long as we are all rowing together.
It’s deliberately disrespectful. He has said that Canada should become a US state. This is convicted felon Trumps way to belittle both PM Trudeau and the sovereign nation of Canada
The funny thing is this is Trump’s way of trying to insult Canada and our PM, but he comes off sounding like an idiot who doesn’t know Trudeau’s proper title.
Like, come on USA. Your grandfather is wandering down the street with his pants off again. Can you come get him?
I don’t think we can. Not yet anyway. Cut off the power and throw enough tariffs to piss off US corporations we might be able to get people out in the streets.
Governor? It’s he really referring to the Canadian prime Minister as though he is the governor of a state? And they said Biden was losing his grasp on reality.
Biden was
This isn’t trump not understanding the concept of a governor. This is him stating multiple times over and over that he wants to take over Canada.
The same way Putin knew it wasn’t a special military operation but an invasion. The language matters
Probably but I don’t think we’ve had an actual doctor come to any conclusion and probably won’t until he’s dead. Barring that Trump does the same shit but instead of freezing he just goes full word salad. It also seems like he’s having some pretty severe mobility issues.
Yeah that’s still fucking dumb because it’s not a state. You don’t call the car you want to buy “your car” because it just isn’t.
Well no, Putin couldn’t openly declare war without forcing Europe to get involved, if they claim it’s anything else we’ll that’s more grey.
The threat to Canada is explicit, not wordsalad.
He’s using serious channels and conventions to deliver deeply unserious ultimatums in order to consolidate attention and create confusion. He will do the same exact thing as the tariffs if it gets to a point of actual mobilization.
“Trump withdraws troops from Canadian border for fifth time this month”
And while everyone is reeling and scared and wondering what the fuck will happen tomorrow, Elon and his little cronies are literally hauling cash out the back door.
I see nothing to make me believe he is not serious.
Well he might seriously get us into a literal war with our neighbors, but it’s not because he gives a shit about politics or international anything. He’s doing a cash-grab right now with and for his donors and sponsors and his family. He is not serious about anything he says because he’s not telling anyone what his actual motivations are.
Serious in this context doesn’t mean “not joking” but rather means “with a real intention of affecting political change.”
I’m not convinced he’s not serious about what he says. I assume everything is a trial balloon. But more importantly, his entire cabinet nods along to his words and the media does not push back.
No one said it wasn’t, you’re taking offense to things that were never said.
At the top of this thread you were implying that Trump referred to the Canadian prime Minister as governor because he was losing his grasp on reality.
No. Trump is fully lucid when he explicitly threatens Canada.
Fanciful wishes are a loss of reality. Someone who thinks they are king is not likely to be sane in this day and age.
Yes he did, however this is just wishful thinking and talking shit. You know the general purview of the mentally unfit.
Until the 25th amendment is enacted, the orders of a sane president carry as much weight as those of an insane president.
No one said otherwise.
I noticed Trump on his speech last night mis-spoke and paused for a split second then kind of half way changed the message to make his error a non error in the “new message”
You do if you want to steal said car and then turn around and tell everyone that it was actually yours to begin with
We know its a lie. He knows it’s a lie. Probably even the idiots who vote for him know its a lie. But if you say a lie enough times and people don’t tell you to fuck off, it becomes the truth.
The same way that people are taught that the american civil war was fought for states rights, not slavery, when we know that most of the states seceded because of slavery
No because it that situation you still did the thing, here he’s just playing about prosperity gospel shit where of you just believe it’ll happen.
It doesn’t though, that only works on very specific things that aren’t as easily disproven by something like the existence of an entire country.
No one is taught that in school, parents say that shit.
Man Palestine was an entire country up until 1947 and now you find people.saying that it never existed and was always Israeli land.
These lies do work, and they are used as justification after the fact. Again, very similar to how Putin also said Ukraine wasn’t really a country and was part of Russia.
Well no. Mandatory Palestine which specifically was not a country… Wasn’t a country.
It’s an effective lie because it includes hints of truth.
But it is literally the truth. Even Mandatory Palestine wasn’t “Palestine” as in “Free Palestine!” More importantly it’s irrelevant to Canadian sovereignty.
Honest question, although I don’t expect an answer, more food for thought. Should Canada invest more into our domestic defence industry? How picky should we be about who we sell weapons to? How about who we do business with? I think the answers will vary based upon how seriously you take Trump’s “jokes” about annexation, and there is certainly going to be lots of disagreement, but this is something we all should consider.
Another more pertinent consideration, how important is a politician’s commitment to Canadian sovereignty? I’ve been reflecting on this since Doug Ford won the Ontario election again, and contrasting him to Pierre Poilievre. I don’t know what your political preferences are, but would you consider Canadian sovereignty more important than say, education? What compromises and how much sacrifice is acceptable for continued sovereignty?
I’m sorry if I come across as aggressive, but Canada is getting knocked down a step on the metaphorical Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs for Nations. Certainly I support more trade with the EU and our CANZUK brothers. But what about China? I support Taiwan’s continued existence as whatever it is, but should we deepen trade ties with China if it helps support Canadian sovereignty? If so, how much?
It’s still early days, but we have to get our heads in the game. Again I don’t know your political inclinations, but I’m pretty sure for me, if you support Canadian sovereignty, than right now we’re allies no matter what else. For me there are limits on my questions above, but I don’t know where they are, they’re pretty far out. I’ll row on the left or right side of the boat, I don’t care so much right now so long as we are all rowing together.
August 24 isn’t that far away
It’s deliberately disrespectful. He has said that Canada should become a US state. This is convicted felon Trumps way to belittle both PM Trudeau and the sovereign nation of Canada
The funny thing is this is Trump’s way of trying to insult Canada and our PM, but he comes off sounding like an idiot who doesn’t know Trudeau’s proper title.
Like, come on USA. Your grandfather is wandering down the street with his pants off again. Can you come get him?
I don’t think we can. Not yet anyway. Cut off the power and throw enough tariffs to piss off US corporations we might be able to get people out in the streets.
That doesn’t make it less stupid and fanciful and that was my point dude.