Another “difference between” Linux question: What ist the actual difference between them?

How fast/stable are releases, compared to each other and in comparison to upstream Arch?

I think I dont get the difference because in my understanding Arch is a rolling release and with both alternatives you want to stay as close to there releases as possible, but dont break you system frequently, right?

So whats the main differences?

  • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
    31·
    1 day ago

    I ran more than a few Manjaro installations for myself and family, and still do. Despite what others say, I’ve had very, very little problems with it and maintenance has been low, users just run Octopi every once in a while and it just works.

    I’ve since moved my own systems to Fedora because I just find it more useful for development, but I would still use it over vanilla Arch, which I ran for almost a decade before Manjaro. Can’t really speak to Endeavor, but as far as I know it’s basically bleeding edge Arch with the ups and downs that implies.

    And whatever the stupid shit the Manjaro team has perpetrated over the years, they’ve still built a solid distro.

    • LeFantome@programming.dev
      11·
      15 hours ago

      Manjaro is like a nice car with a canister of TNT attached to it. At first, all you experience is the nice car. If you really like the car, it is easily to feel smarter than the guy who warned you not to drive it. As time goes on, the chances that the TNT explodes goes up. However, it is always possible that your roads are smooth enough that it never blows up for you. Regardless, if you know about the design flaw, recommending such a car to others is really, really bad advice.

      Using the AUR with Manjaro is like driving the car above on a gravel road. It does not guarantee that the TNT will go off, but it makes it much more likely.

      I hope Manjaro continues to work well for you. Truly.

      Also, please do not encourage others to use it.

      • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        15 hours ago

        Well, I’ve probably get 25 computer-years of it running fine, so how about you recommend what works for you and continue shitting on the hard work of others, and I’ll recommend what I damn well please.

        • LeFantome@programming.dev
          1·
          1 hour ago

          Absolutely solid retort that totally addresses what I said on the merits. Also, way to nail the tone. Both hallmarks in debate from people that know they are right.

          For anybody reading from the sidelines, most of the “TNT” in my analogy comes from the fact that the Manjaro repos are incompatible with the AUR.

          Read both comments and decide for yourself what advice to take. I have offered my warning but do not wish to battle about it.

          • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            36 minutes ago

            I used Arch for a decade before Manjaro, and I was under no misapprehension that the AUR was anything except a collection of community package builds of wildly disparate maintenance levels, with some very popular packages waiting weeks or months for updates.

            If anything, the AUR got more stable in my experience when I moved to Manjaro. If you’re thinking there is any quality control and/or support keeping anything in there consistent, then you’re a bloody fool.