• Tja@programming.dev
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    16 days ago

    The thing is, gesturing vaguely at something we thing is obvious, is not really a source. Even 1+1=2 has to be proven. I suspect that Zionism is just used as a pretext to be antisemitic by people who were going to anyways. But I also don’t have any data to back it up.

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      16 days ago

      The thing is, gesturing vaguely at something (…) obvious, is not really a source

      Yeah, it’s not like there’s a lot of people honestly and precisely detailing how they developed their bigoted attitudes. That doesn’t mean that you can’t reason your way to a logical conclusion, though.

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          No, this (ascertaining the underlying causes of bigotry) is a place where definitive data by definition can’t exist and thus logically reaching the most probable conclusion based on what IS known must take its place.

          I’m trying to assume that your demands for the impossible are in good faith, but it’s getting difficult .

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            As I said before, claiming data can’t exist is a lazy cope-out. I also presented an example of data that could work: antisemitic attacks per day vs activity of Israel in Gaza, plotted over time. Just an example, I’m no sociologist.

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              16 days ago

              As I said before, claiming data can’t exist is a lazy cope-out

              As far as bad faith reading goes, ignoring the word “definitive” to make your strawman fit is up there 🙄

              antisemitic attacks per day vs activity of Israel in Gaza, plotted over time. Just an example, I’m no sociologist.

              Nobody ever told you the difference between correlation and causation or the fact that bigotry consists of SO much more than just overt violence, did they?

              It’s clear that nothing good will come from continuing to indulge you, so I’m gonna go now. Have the day you deserve.