I have one outstanding order that is already out for delivery. Once I get that, I’m closing my amazon account. I’m done. Buy nothing. Vote with your wallet. Edit: account is closed. get bent Bozos.

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    Deleting LGBTQ policies is nothing compared to the slow drum of global warming that might wipe us out as a species.

    I tried to save y’all by advocating for third parties, who would actually bring in the same level of EO you’re seeing from Trump but instead to focus on education, military cuts, and moving towards green and nuclear

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      Voting third party in a two party horse race is a fool’s errand. Especially if you voted for known Putin stooge Jill Stein, who was only running to steal away votes from Kamala Harris. She knew she didn’t stand a chance at winning.

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        Voting “third” party only fails because the great mass of fucking morons who insist on voting for the genocidal, global empire terrorist pieces of shit currently in charge. You can try as hard as you want to deflect that blame, but it will never wash off.

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          I like your sentiment, but a two party system inherently uses third party votes as spoilers. It is common for the dominate party to support a third party to peel away votes from their major opposition.

          https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

          One solution to this is ranked voting. Of course many of our politicians recognize this and have already passed laws at the state level to bar ranked voting under the pretense that it is too confusing for voters.

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            Nailed it - I’ll consider a 3rd party vote on equal-footing once we have ranked/ranked choice voting in place. Right now, I think there’s a higher probability for one of the two parties to consider this so in other words… it’s going to be a while…

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              Whatever party is in power has a lot to lose from ranked voting and nothing to gain. This will make this reform very hard to pass. I live in Alaska and we have ranked voting that narrowly avoided a repeal this last year after passing the previous year.

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            There is no legal enshrinement of a “two party system”. Whoever the public votes for wins. The public’s self-defeating mentality is the problem.

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              Not explicitly. Just effectively. Between first past the post, which naturally evolves into a two party system. And the electoral college which enshrines it. At the national level actual, independent 3rd parties are an impossibility. And they know it.

              Theoretically matter could spontaneously coalesce into a Boltzmann brain before a 3rd party could win a national election.

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                FPTP doesn’t naturally evolve into a two-party system. Cultural predispositions cause that. The electoral college does not enshrine it, it - sometimes - hands the elector votes to the majority winner of the state, and some states even have legal pledges to follow other systems. There is no impossibility. I will repeat myself for the fiftieth time in this thread, THE PUBLIC’S SELF-DEFEATING MENTALITY IS THE PROBLEM. The public TELLS ITSELF a third party is an impossibility, the public DOESN’T VOTE FOR A THIRD PARTY. You will resign yourselves to slavery until you figure this out.

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                  Duvegers law and people who actually study poly sci disagree. And I’m more inclined to believe someone with evidence and proof over someone like yourself. Who has nothing, spouting magical thinking BS.

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                    “Duverger’s Law” (you misspelled it) is a principle, not some deterministic physical law. I studied polisci at college, thanks. Read your own link. First sentence - “TEND to emerge”. Not “always emerge”. There’s an entire section in the article named “Exceptions”. One of those exceptions is IN the U.S. Learn the difference between “tendencies” and “absolutely certain physical laws”, this is basic logic/math.

                    This kind of sloppy thinking is so common in the U.S., I swear to god, this is exactly what I’m talking about with the shitty education system kneecapping the democracy.

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          What’s the point of voting for a 3rd party when they have no members in Congress or the courts? They’d have to coalition with Republicans or Democrats anyways.

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            Exactly, it’s not like the president has all power (at least not yet, we’ll see where it is in a couple years). Without supporting members of the other branches, a third party president is nearly useless. That said, I’d take a useless but well meaning president over Trump.