So all we need to do is find a way to put people in prison!

Win-win!

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    That’s why homelessness is being criminalized.

    The explicit goal is to recreate Victorian workhouses for the benefit of the new generation of robber barons.

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      Hey now, they won’t be called Workhouses. They’ll be called AI training data centers and Gig Opportunity Recruitment Points.

      And if you don’t support these amazing engines of economic development and industrial growth, you are clearly just throwing your support behind the concentration camps that the Bad Team wants to build.

      Hell, I how do I even know you’re not a Russian bot or a Chinese Wumao, trying to sow dissent in our glorious country, anyway?

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      Umm

      The website for this program states the exact opposite

      https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/facility-locator/conservation-camps/faq-conservation-fire-camp-program/

      Yes. A felony conviction does not disqualify employment with CAL FIRE. Many former camp firefighters go on to gain employment with CAL FIRE, the United States Forest Service and interagency hotshot crews.

      CAL FIRE, California Conservation Corps (CCC), and CDCR, in partnership with the Anti-Recidivism Coalition (ARC), developed an 18-month enhanced firefighter training and certification program at the Ventura Training Center (VTC), located in Ventura County.

      The VTC trains formerly-incarcerated people on parole who have recently been part of a trained firefighting workforce housed in fire camps or institutional firehouses operated by CAL FIRE and CDCR. Members of the CCC are also eligible to participate. VTC cadets receive additional rehabilitation and job training skills to help them be more successful after completion of the program. Cadets who complete the program are qualified to apply for entry-level firefighting jobs with local, state, and federal firefighting agencies.

      For more information, visit the Ventura Training Center (VTC) webpage.

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      That’s the first sensible advocacy point I’ve seen sense I started reading these threads. It really doesn’t make sense to assign prisoners to jobs they’re legally barred from.

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        From what I’ve heard this is actually an excellent job for many of them. It’s good pay (for prison labor) doing valuable work with a lot of dignity. And it’s work for their community that’s valuable on the outside. It should always be truly voluntary else it be horrifying, but if they can’t do it once they get out it’s not job training and it’s not reducing recidivism. These prisoners are doing heroic work, let them be heroic once freed.

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    Ah yes, California’s penal legion of slaves “indentured servants” that we uh… voted to keep around in the last election.

    Man, CA politics are fucking bizarre. Sometimes the slam dunk no-brainer propositions fail and there never seems to be a really good reason why.

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      Money, and liberals.

      California is liberal. Not left. Every once in a while some leftist proposition comes up that threatens money, and money always wins.

      When they say liberals are wolves in sheep’s clothing, this is kinda what they’re talking about. They care, they really care about their fellow man, as far as their comfortable standard of living allows.

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    Isn’t there an amendment about this? We had that whole interval railway war over capitalism under the guise of fighting for that amendment?

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      “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction”

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        Oh I see, so Southern plantation owners just have to run individual prisons with open air detention centers for incarcerated individuals of color that happen to be lined with cotton plants and coincidentally they can sell that cotton for profit.

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          They did exactly that. Right up until the 1940’s when FDR’s Department of Justice went after them.

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            They’re still doing it, like there are still prison plantations in Louisiana where they send black people for having half a joint on them.

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              The thing about peonage is they kept people forever. That was the big problem. Putting a definitive end date on a sentence made it magically better. I agree that forced labor is slavery, I’m just referencing the dying gasp of the actual plantation system. While we should eliminate prison slave labor, it’s also nowhere near what the peonage system was.