• Quadhammer@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    Are there any leaders that would be positively revered by today’s standards? I kinda like Washington, Lincoln, JFK and T. Roosevelt. Churchill, Obama, Ghandi and Carter. Alexander the great?

    They’ve all got their own problems but maybe not irredeemable shitheels

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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      23 days ago

      Churchill

      I’m generally lenient towards historical figures who were born under a time of different moral standards, but Churchill was a piece of shit by the standards of his own time, and only gets a ‘pass’ because he was important in fighting a worse foe - the fucking Nazis.