More efficient manufacturing, falling battery costs and intense competition are lowering sticker prices for battery-powered models to within striking distance of gasoline cars.

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    Archive link: https://archive.ph/5QorR

    Recently, Mr. Lawrence said, customers have been snapping up used Teslas for a little over $20,000, after applying a $4,000 federal tax credit.

    Oh, so you mean used electric cars.

    Carmakers including Tesla, Ford, General Motors and Stellantis, the owner of Jeep, have announced plans for electric vehicles that would sell new for as little as $25,000.

    Oh, so you mean not yet, but maybe affordable soon.

    For fuck’s sake…

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      Oh, so you mean not yet, but maybe affordable soon.

      What do y’all thinking “becoming” means? If they meant they are already affordable, they would have used the term “are.”

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      Oh, so you mean not yet, but maybe affordable soon.

      For fuck’s sake…

      i had the same feeling while knowing that people outside the united states can get brand new ev’s for $10k today.

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      New cars have always been expensive and out of reach for most, which is why the average new car buyer is well into their 50s.

      I don’t see how people can logically make an argument about the necessity of switching to EVs for the environment while also demanding that everyone gets a brand new car. Scrapping a bunch of perfectly good cars to build new ones is not going to help out our climate issue.

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        Why don’t we stop subsidizing fossil fuel companies to the tune of $1Trillion Anually, and instead put all of that money towards subsidizing purchases and further R&D of electric vehicles? Oil and Gas corporations could enjoy the competition of the free market, and we the people could get access to new EVs for under $10k out of pocket - it would be a win-win!

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        I read that the issue with used EV’s is that you eventually need to replace the battery pack which can sometimes cost you as much as the car.

        Edit: Seems I was misinformed. Glad to hear that replacing EV batteries is not much of a concern.

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          If it’s even possible. I’ve personally swapped the main battery pack on a Gen 1 Prius. Not easy, but more tedious than technical. Lifting the assembled unit was a hell of a chore but a coulple strapping dudes managed it. Reconditioned cells are available in a lot of places. I’ve had a Nissan Leaf and would get another one, but even finding a battery, let alone any info on swapping it was pretty much impossible.

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        Like 16 years ago you could buy a brand new chevy aveo with an msrp of $10,300.

        Small econoboxes used to be cheap and affordable.

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          Regardless of where you fall on EVs or new car pricing, the Aveo was hot garbage and there’s a reason why they only cost $10k. This is the same reason why you don’t see any of them on the road anymore.

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            True, but at the time you could get a Toyota Echo or a Honda Fit or a Ford Fiesta or even a Nissan Versa which are all small cars that no longer exist.

            And I see plenty of them still on the road.

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              Those were priced higher and comparable to the compacts like the Corolla, Civic, and Sentra.

              I think there just wasn’t enough demand since people would rather pay a little more to get a little more car than they need for those rare times when a lot of cargo space was needed. Additionally, tiny CUVs like the RAV4 have increased in popularity quite a bit and still get great fuel economy, further reducing demand for the sub-compacts. These cars were also marketed toward young people like college students who have a harder time affording a new car these days and would rather buy a good used one for much cheaper.

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      You’re not wrong, but in fairness the headline says EVs are becoming affordable, not that they are affordable.

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        You’re not wrong, but in fairness the headline says EVs are becoming affordable, not that they are affordable.

        he’s right; brand new ev’s go for about $10k outside the unites states; they’re already affordable but big tariffs are being employed to discourage buying them.

        curiously, even the 100% american tariff still makes these ev’s more affordable than anything in that article and i’m wondering what’s going to happen once they start building them in mexico (ie nafta).

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          They don’t in Australia they’re still 50k min. We give massive subsidies to fossil fuel companies too