Kelly: Is there a downside? I’m thinking of people trying to find a parking place, for starters.

Horowitz: So we see that in places that have actually eliminated parking minimums, that we see fewer people driving at all and having cars and we see vehicle miles traveled decrease because people can get around via other mechanisms.

Well, now, would you look at that?! If we change the incentives, if we stop incentivizing driving by law, people change their behavior. In this case, they can save a ton of money by not needing a car.

  • Kbobabob@lemmy.worldEnglish
    372·
    11 months ago

    because people can get around via other mechanisms.

    You have to have the “other mechanisms” for it to work. So it’s really just saying that public transportation works.

    • Franklin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      321·
      11 months ago

      My favorite is when they purposely sabotage public transportation and then make that the case study for why it never works

    • blargerer@kbin.social
      10·
      11 months ago

      Yes and no. Things can be built much denser without the need for all the parking so walking and biking become much more viable.

    • Gigan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      11 months ago

      Not even. There are several parking lots in my city that are way bigger than they need to be. They’re not even full on Black Friday. The lots are just unreasonably big for no reason.

    • grue@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      52·
      11 months ago

      You have to have the “other mechanisms” for it to work.

      No you don’t. Just fix the zoning and people will figure it out, public transit or not.

      “But we can’t reduce parking until we have transit” is (a) backwards and (b) often a bad-faith excuse given by sprawl-supporters.

      • TigrisMorte@kbin.social
        32·
        11 months ago

        Tell that to the folks about to be late for Jury Duty unless they fork over 25 bucks to park.

        • SwingingTheLamp@midwest.socialOPEnglish
          2·
          11 months ago

          Where I live, the trials take place at the county courthouse, and parking for jurors is at the county parking structure across the street. It’s a typical pay-on-exit system, and jurors get a paid ticket to stick in the machine, so there’s no out-of-pocket cost for parking.

          Yet another way we subsidize and encourage driving…

        • Tarquinn2049@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          11 months ago

          Sounds like one way to realise they didn’t plan ahead. Find out what your options are, and pick the option you like the best before even leaving home.