Israel ordered people out of swathes of the main southern city in the Gaza Strip on Monday (December 4) as it pressed its ground campaign deep into the south, sending desperate residents fleeing even as it dropped bombs on areas where it told them to go. Lucy Fielder has more.
This is literally an extermination program being done with missiles instead of gas chambers, there’s no other reason to lie about safe areas to civilians and use it to collect them in the same place to kill as many as possible. This is literally how the germans used the death showers in concentration camps.
Israel has been very clear that they will attack Hamas targets no matter where they are, inside or outside the evacuation area. If they wanted to just kill all the Palestinians they could have by now but they haven’t. They built sophisticated AI to select their targets so that they can claim their targets are valid military ones.
I mean there’s a real legitimate case to be made that they need to select their military targets more carefully or that the amount of civilian collateral damages too high, and I feel like that all gets overlooked when instead It gets replaced with the ridiculous claim that israel is trying to genocide all the civilians, which is obviously wrong.(Israel is comprised of many of the same ethnic groups you claim they are genociding.)
Look if they were actually trying to avoid civilian casualties the amount of kids killed would not be nearly so high. There wouldn’t be bombed ambulances.
This isnt war this is slaughter of civilians. Just because they’re using different technology to do it doesn’t mean its a sparkling war instead of a genocide.
Palestine is mostly kids, Gazans have a high fertility rate, they decided to have lots of kids in a war zone. Although tragic, it should be unsurprising that they end up being many/most collateral damage casualties. This terrible consequence for slaughtering Israeli civilians should have been totally predictable, yet only Israel seems to be blamed for the violence these children experience, not the ones murdering Israeli civilians while hiding among them.
Israel was attacked by the government of Gaza, and they are counter attacking their infrastructure and their leadership, who hides among civilians. This is war. Civilians almost always suffer and die in war.
They don’t have a high fertility rate. They have a high death rate. If you look at the demographic breakdown, the number of people over the age of 30 or so drops off precipitously.
I mean you might be right that it’s currently quite a lot worse, but in the recent past, their fertility rate has been way above death rate, every year since 1970:
high fertility rate bullshit? does supporting Israel make you just turn straight up Nazi? any more race realism takes? maybe you also share the view of the Israeli government that Palestinians are below animals as well?
I’m not blaming them for the “murders.” I’m pointing out they are responsible for the conditions there, and chose to have children in that terrible situation. Causality exists even if you don’t like it.
Such comments only serve to dilute the seriousness of Nazi atrocities because you want to make shocking but inappropriate comparisons. It’s not a good look, and it’s going to make a lot of people not take you seriously.
oh sorry, the anti-Nazi group is well known for their race realism, like the assumption that different groups of humans have different fucking fertility rates, who were they again?
That’s not an assumption, that’s a fucking fact. It seems like you’re looking for outrage wherever you can, even where there should be none. Invoking Gottlieb’s law doesn’t reflect well on you.
I mean, yes we get it, you are a Nazi, literally the only people who believe shit like this are Nazis, it’s literally great replacement bullshit.
If you are upset about being called a Nazi, maybe don’t spout the foreign policy of the Nazis as a basis for invasion, nor, pull the scientific racism of the Nazis, nor even the casual disregard of the “non-master race” deaths.
70% of casualties are women and children, this doesn’t mean that 30% are Hamas, after all most men also aren’t part of Hamas, just that they are actively targeting civilians
“If they wanted to just kill all the Palestinians they could have by now but they haven’t.”
If this Israeli government wanted to kill all the Palestinians without looking like that was their plan they would bomb them slowly over an extended period of time while making a human shield argument.
This is literally an extermination program being done with missiles instead of gas chambers, there’s no other reason to lie about safe areas to civilians and use it to collect them in the same place to kill as many as possible. This is literally how the germans used the death showers in concentration camps.
Israel has been very clear that they will attack Hamas targets no matter where they are, inside or outside the evacuation area. If they wanted to just kill all the Palestinians they could have by now but they haven’t. They built sophisticated AI to select their targets so that they can claim their targets are valid military ones.
I mean there’s a real legitimate case to be made that they need to select their military targets more carefully or that the amount of civilian collateral damages too high, and I feel like that all gets overlooked when instead It gets replaced with the ridiculous claim that israel is trying to genocide all the civilians, which is obviously wrong.(Israel is comprised of many of the same ethnic groups you claim they are genociding.)
Look if they were actually trying to avoid civilian casualties the amount of kids killed would not be nearly so high. There wouldn’t be bombed ambulances.
This isnt war this is slaughter of civilians. Just because they’re using different technology to do it doesn’t mean its a sparkling war instead of a genocide.
Palestine is mostly kids, Gazans have a high fertility rate, they decided to have lots of kids in a war zone. Although tragic, it should be unsurprising that they end up being many/most collateral damage casualties. This terrible consequence for slaughtering Israeli civilians should have been totally predictable, yet only Israel seems to be blamed for the violence these children experience, not the ones murdering Israeli civilians while hiding among them.
I believe the idf claimed that the ambulance was in use by Hamas.
Israel was attacked by the government of Gaza, and they are counter attacking their infrastructure and their leadership, who hides among civilians. This is war. Civilians almost always suffer and die in war.
They don’t have a high fertility rate. They have a high death rate. If you look at the demographic breakdown, the number of people over the age of 30 or so drops off precipitously.
I mean you might be right that it’s currently quite a lot worse, but in the recent past, their fertility rate has been way above death rate, every year since 1970:
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/state-of-palestine-population/
This is the reason why their median age is so low.
And their life expectancy has been around 73 years, which puts them at #104/201.
https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/#countries-ranked-by-life-expectancy
high fertility rate bullshit? does supporting Israel make you just turn straight up Nazi? any more race realism takes? maybe you also share the view of the Israeli government that Palestinians are below animals as well?
Pointing out a group has high fertility rates = Nazi? Absurd.
Blaming the innocent victims of military action for the murders that their killers committed is 100% Nazi shit. Well, I guess they call it Likud now.
I’m not blaming them for the “murders.” I’m pointing out they are responsible for the conditions there, and chose to have children in that terrible situation. Causality exists even if you don’t like it.
Such comments only serve to dilute the seriousness of Nazi atrocities because you want to make shocking but inappropriate comparisons. It’s not a good look, and it’s going to make a lot of people not take you seriously.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
oh sorry, the anti-Nazi group is well known for their race realism, like the assumption that different groups of humans have different fucking fertility rates, who were they again?
That’s not an assumption, that’s a fucking fact. It seems like you’re looking for outrage wherever you can, even where there should be none. Invoking Gottlieb’s law doesn’t reflect well on you.
I mean, yes we get it, you are a Nazi, literally the only people who believe shit like this are Nazis, it’s literally great replacement bullshit.
If you are upset about being called a Nazi, maybe don’t spout the foreign policy of the Nazis as a basis for invasion, nor, pull the scientific racism of the Nazis, nor even the casual disregard of the “non-master race” deaths.
70% of casualties are women and children, this doesn’t mean that 30% are Hamas, after all most men also aren’t part of Hamas, just that they are actively targeting civilians
They claim it’s collateral damage, and you haven’t shared anything that disproves this.
We don’t need to disprove IDF lies when they’ve already proven it’s their preferred form of communication
“I don’t need to cite facts, I have a strongly held opinion!”
The pattern abides
Are you able or willing to provide any evidence of this pattern?
Depends, are you pro-Likud or do you hate their fucking guts
“If they wanted to just kill all the Palestinians they could have by now but they haven’t.”
If this Israeli government wanted to kill all the Palestinians without looking like that was their plan they would bomb them slowly over an extended period of time while making a human shield argument.