Do you have a source for their use of palladium? Wikipedia says it as well, but I can’t find where that information is coming from. I’m mostly interested in what they’re using it for, and whether other manufacturers of E471 are doing the same or using another method. Livsmedelsverket says it can be an animal product, but Apeel says they make theirs from plants. It’s apparently also possible to make from palm oil, so that’s neat. :|
I hope I didn’t seem like I disagree with the EU’s caution, or that I was minimizing the seriousness of food issues in the US. I just hadn’t heard of Apeel before and was really surprised when I looked it up because I was expecting to be horrified. I genuinely hope it is safe, both for the sake of people who don’t have a choice and also for the potential value in reducing food waste.
I’m not able to find out whether palladium can be easily rinsed off because Google is desperate to sell me boots, but the company does claim you can wash the fruit, so I hope that’s adequate. I do know that lead can be easily washed off, so maybe?
I don’t think apples need any help either (they actually produce their own wax coating apparently), but the cucumbers are in plastic, and there’s a ton of strawberry waste because they mold immediately. If it is indeed safe then it could be very beneficial in such cases.
No, the substances in question are already approved for edibles. I think the issue is that additives are not allowed on produce, because the Swedish Livsmedelsverket phrases it in a way that implies such to me.
“Får användas i nästan alla livsmedel som får innehålla tillsatser.” “May be used in nearly all foods for which additives are allowed.” I think it’s reasonable that there’s probably a regulation about not having additives in things people are assuming will be natural. I mean, how would you post allergy warnings on a peach?
Why wouldn’t we buy his book? Is it bad?
The idea is to break up these corporations, not just have them trade assets.
She was hungry and you gave her food?
You’re making this argument via FOSS.
I had to look up Apeel, but I think it’s a good thing actually:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apeel_Sciences
Apeel Sciences is an American food technology company based in Goleta, California. Its edible coating product Apeel or Edipeel can make avocados, citrus and other types of fruit last twice as long as usual by using a tasteless edible coating, and reduces food loss and waste as well as reliance on single-use plastic packaging.
Edipeel is allowed for use on the following fruits in the European Union, Norway, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom: avocados, citrus fruit, mangoes, papayas, melons, bananas, pineapples, and pomegranates.
On their website they seem to rightfully point out that E471 (apparently a combo of E422 and E570) is already approved for consumption in the EU, so it doesn’t make sense that they’re limited to foods where we don’t eat the peel. If it’s safe and gets the plastic off the cucumbers, I’m for it.
e: Does anyone actually have a source for palladium being used in Edipeel’s manufacture? I can’t find one. Most of what I’m getting in these searches is that the plants they use to make E471 can contain heavy metals they absorb from their environment, and that the levels are low enough to be considered safe by US regulations. (No clue whether the limit is reasonable.)
They’ve so far used AI to detect all the different parts of a particular whale species’ language, like the different sounds and timing. Deciphering the meaning will be much harder since it’s difficult to observe their behavior, but small land mammals should go much smoother.
Factory farming exists pretty much everywhere though. If just 50% of people reduced their meat intake to an occasional treat, that would go a long way to reducing suffering, improving sustainability, and increasing the availability and affordability of vegan products. That doesn’t mean that any given individual needs to be vegan, just that encouraging widespread veganism is beneficial to everyone.
I’m sorry if my post came off as “Just eat s bunch of soy beans,” because that isn’t what I meant. Rather, it seems viable to eat a lot of plants and supplement with animal products where needed, especially given that there’s also a pill form.
Also I don’t think the 550mg figure is meant to be a recommended minimum intake, but rather a figure where it’s impossible to be deficient. It’s my understanding that a minimum intake of choline hasn’t been established. From Wikipedia:
Insufficient data is available to establish an estimated average requirement (EAR) for choline, so the Food and Nutrition Board established adequate intakes (AIs). For adults, the AI for choline was set at 550 mg/day for men and 425 mg/day for women. These values have been shown to prevent hepatic alteration in men. However, the study used to derive these values did not evaluate whether less choline would be effective, as researchers only compared a choline-free diet to a diet containing 550 mg of choline per day. From this, the AIs for children and adolescents were extrapolated.
Twelve surveys undertaken in 9 EU countries between 2000 and 2011 estimated choline intake of adults in these countries to be 269–468 milligrams per day. Intake was 269–444 mg/day in adult women and 332–468 mg/day in adult men.
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I also have medical and economic issues that make it unreasonable to be completely vegan, but that doesn’t mean the world shouldn’t shift towards it. Factory farming isn’t a practice needed to help my conditions, and I doubt you benefit from it either. They could probably use humane and sustainable methods to provide plenty of meat/dairy for medical purposes and pet foods.
And besides, according to this chart, soybeans have higher choline content than most meats. Google also says there’s a shitton of trimethylglycine in wheat. And both come in supplement form. (Not sure how they make them though, so maybe not vegan.)
Why would they have to get rid of agriculture?
We can have both with well-placed parking garages, but I’m guessing these people wouldn’t like that either. They want their open space so bad, but they don’t realize how much more room for nature there is when you condense the cars and living spaces a bit. And you save a ton of money on things like plumbing and roofing when responsibility for the building is shared.
Wait, wait, wait. Are you telling me Uno is literally just crazy eights, and that’s why I’ve never seen anyone play crazy eights after like 1993?
But actual anarchists also oppose governments of Western nations. If the alleged tankies are only fomenting anarchist sympathy rather than arguing in favor of dictatorships, then what’s the difference? Are you trying to say that we can’t get rid of Western capitalism until we take down the Chinese government first?
But what you’re alleging is that they’re pretending to be anarchists to get people to oppose capitalism, right?
How do you explain the vast wealth of free software and entertainment media created by both professionals and hobbyists alike? How do you explain the profitability of games and movies when any of us can pirate a copy with little effort? Why is it possible to sell copies of public domain books when we have libraries?