But then some celebrity in the 80’s was arguing against physical fitness tests for firefighters saying well they could use like power axes or something (which you know. did not exist).

Who? I feel like a huge issue here is saying anyone who is a woman and says a thing = feminism. I know dozens of firefighters who are women, they pass the tests all the time. (My brother is a volunteer firefighter in BC, Canada.)

I’d assumed you actually were ‘done’ but no, I see you still getting bodied in this very thread by other people.

Keep up the good work :)

Arguably the average American company is far worse than the Nazis were.

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I just want to leave this here so you can never edit it, nor remove it.

Bro this is just ignorance.

Like the ‘innocent German farmer soldiers’ who had no idea what was happening? This is how that starts, dude, seriously, this isn’t even a clever attempt at a wedge issue. It’s as in-your-face as it could be.

Sigh can you calm down there for a second?

When it comes to Nazi stuff? No, absolutely not. Fascists run the US right now, and I am rightly worried about what that means. We have actual Fascists running the country with nukes, with an army they spend more on than most of the world combined. Fascists are always stopped by picking a fight they can’t win, and if these apologists and ‘well were they really that bad’ or whatever it is this time buy them sympathy, they buy them time to creep into each office, each group of people. Suddenly you have Jews for Hitler and they go ‘see? If we were really bad, would these people defend us?’

So no I’m not going to calm down, I’m going to very specifically point out we know exactly where this goes. This is the paradox of tolerance right here; we fight it everywhere. Not just when they say the genocide things, when they do any dog whistles, any of the talking points, we shut that shit down.

and instead simply believed propaganda they’d come across

This is the same fucking stuff from the Nazi’s. And we didn’t beat it last time with softly worded retorts and appeasement, we did it when we stood up and fought back, we figuratively gathered all the bullied groups at school against the school bullies and pummelled them so badly they couldn’t hurt us again. Because Fascists pick on the smallest target, because they need the money, the distraction, an External Enemy to focus people on. And it starts here, in the pubs, in the break rooms, in the internet forums, on message boards, that they build their support base.

So call this paranoid or that it’s me being emotional, I don’t care, because all I have to do is point at the past and I’m proven right.

Because I’m going to make goddamn sure you understand what you’re doing so the next time you think we should talk nice to the people defending a group that designed and implemented genocide of more than one people group as a fucking core ideology you’ll pause and maybe reflect on if this is the best time to be super cordial with some guy about to launch into ‘I’m just saying maybe the numbers are exaggerated.’

My grandmother wasn’t thrown in a camp by fucking elite waffen SS guards it was random fucking Wehrmacht child rapists who were taught that Deutschland über alles.

Does it feel good getting off to demonizing people who don’t know better

What is he, a goddamn four year old? Who the fuck doesn’t know Nazi’s are bad are you fucking kidding me here? Nobody is ‘getting off’ on anything, this person called out a Nazi apologist. There’s no clean wehrmacht, it was a Nazi lie by higher ups to save their own fucking skin.

From 16 Days in Berlin: (I can’t be assed to find the original attribution, go do it yourself if you care to.)

“We have to win this war… if the others win the war, and they do to us only a fraction of what we have done in the occupied territories, there won’t be a single German left in a few weeks.”

Here’s a list of the companies that used slave labour from concentration camps.

There now I’ve done the thing where the lefty finds the answers for you.

Fuck fascism, fuck Nazi’s, fight them everywhere you see them, give them no ground, no quarter. Defend each other because even the centrists will side with them, just like last time.

If you want to educate the person above, don’t start with “fuck off”. Just explain to them why they are wrong and corroborate with historical bits as you please.

No. Fuck Nazi apologists.

I don’t want to say ‘Itodaso’ but the guy went from “Not all men” to Nazi apologist in ONE post. These guys are all over Lemmy and it’s super depressing.

Theres something else far more wrong with them, and I think it involves money

There’s also that they don’t have to deal with the ‘women are emotional’ trope, so in general, there’s always going to be another assumption. The only extremely famous woman I can think of on roughly this level is J.K. Rowling, and hers wasn’t divorce driven.

I think the main thing is men more often recognize a rational thought process and differentiate it from an emotional thought process.

I’ve got bad news for you if you think doing your capitalist duty and going into work while fascists take over is going to somehow work out later.

Examples of Strikes, mass protests, and revolutions that happened when things were easy for the strikers to go out and do them:

Times the police, military, and other centrist citizens did everything to directly stop or persuade them to stop: (all)

People worked right up till they were put in camps in the 30’s, too.

Don’t worry other people will do it just like last time, too.

Imagine the Saddledome completely sold out. This means 2,315 of those people want to ‘definitely consider’ and 1,350 would ‘probably consider’ joining the United fucking States.

Thank God they didn’t vote Democrat, Gaza saved.

Not 90% opposed, 81. 1 in 5 Albertans are okay with it – that’s terrifying.

You SERIOUSLY don’t hear other people, do you? You don’t see what’s said to you, what’s right in front of you? All you think about is what you want and how you can change what they say to meet it.

The mens lib movement, and the ridiculous attacks on women you voice don’t help people like me, who were attacked, because you change the focus, from help for everyone, to pitting men against women. No woman’s group ever blocked me access to care. Women don’t vote conservative at the rate men do, and conservative’s stop these groups from being made. The help I got was entirely from women volunteering their time and help. The people who tried to limit it, or change access, were men. The Conservative governments that remove funding for these programs are run by men, and voted for by men, and protected by men. The CEO’s who sabotage funding for public resources so they can get more tax breaks are patriarchal. Are women there? Sure. Is it run by them? No.

Our entire political, economic, and social system set up to benefit ‘masculine’ efforts. Being raped by a woman is seen by this system as ‘effeminate.’

The men who did eventually help me are hardcore left-wing socialists who understood, and spoke with me about how harmful the patriarchal system we all live under was to me, and others like me. We also spoke about the sheer damage the garbage people like you and your ‘mens lib’ movement has hurt us. Women didn’t even have the right as human beings until recently. In our own societies we deny them bodily autonomy and the right to vote and the right to be people under the law. And then people like you come out and say it’s all womens fault, and every time a woman speaks out about institutionally allowed sexual assault you scream from the rafters that men are hurt to, but NEVER when I asked for fucking help! NEVER when I was suffering! Only when women speak out, or someone talks about the FACT women are more likely to be assaulted, are assaulted more often, and the systems in place that allow it to happen, then you cowards come out and PRETEND TO PROTECT ME?!

FUCK. THAT.

You don’t represent me, and people like you make me ashamed to be a man.