Given that OP constantly concern trolls how awful biden is, id say that criticism of them wouldnt be out of line. There is a rather large contingent on the internet, and here on lemmy in particular, out to spread FUD to demoralize the american populace in hopes of discouraging them from voting. With that in mind, and considering the same profiles spread the same nearly exclusively anti-biden propaganda, and the same exact ones jump in to the others defense… methinks the lady doth protest too much.

Fuck ur logic! We want outrage! D:<

Same… having to live in Indy is already bad enough.

Also large chunks of this one, too. Theyre really trying to make this seem like its about stripping ur privacy. Like, theres literally another bill right now thats passing thats actually about stripping away ur rights to digital privacy, this one in particular has nothing to do with that. This one truly is, adversarial govts shouldnt get to spy on our citizens.

Former machinist here, not sure if this is on raw material or finished products, but it was definitely a problem in the industry that customers could buy a half as good version of our product for a fraction of the price out of China. Even the shipping time was negligible bc they would crank these parts out so fucking quick, quality control be damned.

Vote!

But also direct action and mutual aid are good for u too, and if ur asking if you should vote, chances are youll do well picking up one of the othrr two alongside ur voting.

I kinda thought so at first, but rereading ur comment i figured id better reply since u can never be to sure. Sorry dude. I guess u make a convincing republican when u try :p

Oops! I am dumb, by the way.

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We didnt spend billions on Ukraine. We donate old arms worth billions that were due to be phased out anyway to Ukraine. Crappy media reporting has really done on number on everyone who believes otherwise. And guess what? That weaponry was doing the trick. As predicted, giving Ukraine an absolute fuckload of our outdated shit is held russia back.

But sure. Lets let Poland, Finland, and Lithuania fall next -___-

Almost like the west isnt funding them the way they are supposed to. To anyone in the US, this is why you need a democratic majority in the house. Russia has already called Ukraine a stepping stone multiple times, but US news is a awash with nothing but news on Gaza and israel despite the US policy on israel being unfortunately decided for 70 years now. So instead of pressuring our govt to act on Ukraine, we have protestors wasting their effort on the wrong genocide, one which the US was never going to stop, and is much smaller in scale. Its a dismal way of looking at things, but it is not incorrect.

Thank god for Mississippi!

You also sleep if white Ukranians are slaughtered, but i guess that’s beside the point.

Fuck israel and the IDF either way.

And the Russians burnt it down after the French entered.

Bottom up, amigo! When the low level supports more progressives at higher levels, those endorsements from popular local officials will go a long way.

Ooh! Productive disagreements based in good faith arguments! I love it!

The reason i buy into the “theory” in question is bc corporate democrats are notorious for playing the political game by ear and ammending their values to 1. Keep their voters backing, 2. Keep their owners happy.

Agreed on flipping the house, agreed on creating a tangible majority in the senate, agreed on flipping red seats. To this last point, based off of many many convos ive had with blue collar conservatives (who i think are either thr core of GOP support, or damn near), i feel like progressive candidates who arent afraid to get down and dirty on the grassroots level in red districts have a better chance of flipping those seats than so-called “moderate” dems. Per my experience, these right wing voters hate insurance conpanies, hate “the elite”, hate being unfairly taxed or otherwise “controlled” by their govt, and are willing to enact the policies we preach (single payer healthcare, wealth tax, lower taxes for their tax bracket and higher for the “elite” they hate, or even max wages) as long as they are stripped of the buzzwords they fear. Thru continuous conversation, even those buzzwords start to be less scary when the policies u preach are being espoused by someone they see as one of their own.

Disagree on making blue seats bluer. Largely bc of what i just said. To your credit, you bring up excellent points on manchin, i must admit i was ignorant about the situation u describe in WV. Great food for thought. Nevertheless, flipping red seats is not an either or situation with replacing the old guard with progressives. You have to remember the new guard coming into voting power prefers progressives.

Agree and disagree. If not Manshit and sEnema, wed find two other corporate dems to do the same. We need to primary the shit dems for progressives anytime we get the chance from the bottom up to really get climate action.

Joe tried more than he accomplished, but given that he accomplished more than Obama towards this end, id say thats a byproduct of the dems realizing they must cater to the new generation and i give the credit to the general culture shift. I dont think joe is the answer we’re looking for, but he is swayed by his consituents, regardless of what the lemmy FUD crowd will tell u.

So i do agree that for climate action we need the house to turn blue, but i also need it be said that the action they will accomplish will be less than needed, and they should be uncomfortably pressed on that fact. Over more than one election cycle, that is how we get what we want/need.

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Agreed. My local area put a progressive (u know, an actual one) in office a couple election cycles ago and shes been very popular with her constituents.

Huh…

Excellent points, truly didnt consider. Now if only we could get Joe to also go after WI, MI, and PA harder… i think those are key.

Gotta dispense with the GOP fascsists in Congress first. Theyre to busy cashing their russian checks to give aid to those who actually need it.

I dont like biden. I approve of some of his policies. I dig forgiving student loans. I like the updated infrastructure plan, esp that it specifically targets the state that just had issues with their roads floading and is in desperate need of more jobs (VT). And i like the Texan high speed rail idea. Texas being annoying as shit aside, a high speed rail between two massive metropolises is exactly what we need. Not to mention the big 3 cities in TX already historically vote blue in the general so trying to energize that crowd ahead of the election seems a little optimistic, but not as misplaced as some would have u believe.

Biden is still Status Quo Joe to me. He still represents the continuation of neoliberal policies that keep us from addressing the climate crisis, but he does not represent a disruption to the democratic process but rather its continuation. With the youth being more aware of the climate situation, the draconian foreign policies we hold, and on the whole supporting a wider array of left leaning policies than any generation prior, biden is the only sane choice.