Do remember that those were designed from the start to have active cooling, the Leaf wasn’t, in fact it’s a great example of a lack of foresight between the lack of active cooling and the Chademo plug.

What’s the difference between pedantic and accurate? Mine was good enough, and yours was accurate.

Cost isn’t the only factor to adding a cooling loop, there’s a good chance that they’d have to make room in the pack for the cooling system, which means either a bigger pack or a less powerful pack. As to cost, have to engineer the radiating, plumbing, plumbing mounting, computer controls for the cooling system, and of course the radiator needs good airflow which might require a redesign of the front end, and the charger port is there, so that might need moving which requires more engineering. It snowballs easily.

I actually agree, we leased our Leaf because we wanted an inexpensive electric car, and this was at the height of the Bolt battery mess, so that really only left the Leaf, but we weren’t dumb enough to buy it, use it during it’s best years, then give it back and let it be someone else’s problem.

Possible, unlikely though below the level that would make any ICE vehicle an insurance write off too, so no real reason to worry about that unless you plan on regularly driving through flooded roads

I think much of the Leaf’s lack of innovation was due to price, the goal was for it to be an everyday car in looks, operation and price, and that last one means it’d never be very profitable, at least not for a long time, so updates just weren’t feasible. A good question is how does the Arriya compare to other brands EVs, since that’s their newest most modern vehicle.

Not real surprising, as I understand, all their electric vehicles are basically variants on the same vehicle, whether you’re talking a BrightDrop van, Silverado electric, Equinox EV or the upcoming Bolt, economies of scale and all that.

True, but even if such tests double the price, it’s still cheaper than anything else offered, what’s the lowest right now, $29K?

True, I’m not sure what the solution is, but saying the rules only apply to certain players rubs me the wrong way. And that’s not even getting started on how much of the threat comes from US automakers refusal to produce electric cars until they were staring down a gun, plus how much they want to sell large expensive vehicles so they get nice large paychecks. Sure, China could and prolly is subsidizing their electric car industry, but we could do that too, in a way we already are with the tax credit only applying to American made vehicles.

True, but banning them seems like using a nuke to deal with a fly, just a bit overkill. I don’t expect the Chinese to play fair, but it seems that just saying that the rules only apply to American companies seems wrong and lazy.

Chuckles, “Yep, only American manufacturers should be allowed to cheaply build cars in Mexico and export them to the US.”

IIRC didn’t Tesla start building their network when there wasn’t really a standard, and who was still going to win was up in the air? Seems like a good investment, but now that things have settled, creating your own network is really just a vanity project. Tesla opening up their network is smart, they were one of the two winners in North America, so opening up the network gives them a new revenue stream, and I’d be surprised if’n they don’t find a way to leverage those chargers to drive sales.

Considering what I’ve heard about their network, this smells like a way to bail out of a failure while saving face

Yes, but knowing China, they’ll be happy to supply Tesla, while selling knock-off parts and quality control failures under their own brand to anyone who wants them, at least until they get their own operation up and running to make their own cars, a process a lot easier when you’re in the country, something Tesla will be facilitating.

I suspect he will come to regret this, the Chinese aren’t stupid, and will be happy to slit his throat once they’ve got what they need.

If you’re going to drink that much coffee, look at St Louis Bread Co/Panera Bread, their Sip Club makes it cheap. $13/mo, and large cold drinks are around $3.25, so it doesn’t take long for the membership to pay for itself, and as I’m a courier, it definitely saves me money. That said, support local if you can.

Indeed, but the odd part is that I think the capacity on these is half way between a full sized van and a step van, which is a big jump for USPS, the current LLVs are on the high side of a minivan IIRC, making me wonder what’s up.

Their other van is better looking, same front end, and a nearly identical rear end, but less capacity. It’s kinda odd that USPS are going with these as I think the standard van is big enough.

Knowing Canoo, six is all they can come up with for the test. I like their smaller van, and even have some money invested in them, but they’re not looking like a real company at this point, they’re years behind on production, not transparent at all about how many vehicles they’ve made, but they love to announce the deals they’ve made with WalMart, NASA, USPS, OK and more. This van is actually one of their newer designs, I think they created it on request by WalMart.

That seems to be easy for them based on my experience with their vehicles over the years.

Could be the strong competition in China, there’s a lot of electric car choices there, more than any other country IIRC