No fuck yes. Blame them.

Are you saying that trump won because his policy and campaign was stellar.

Trump won because his base acted instead of passively watching. They took over everything and all the left could say was “don’t roll with them something something pigs”

Oh we’re the idiots. Never saw that coming

Sure but I’m also all for innovating and watching these things fail. Isn’t there a value in letting dumb rich people with money waste their wealth on dumb ideas. It keeps them from doing things like buying Twitter

Which is a vapid statement without an actual reason behind it. A response that lacks social intelligence. And I am using it in the right way

No it hasn’t.

Seriously.

You think social intelligence is a made up term. If it isn’t and you just claimed it is in order to dismiss me, wouldn’t they mean you are what you claim me to be?

No but hear me out. Republicans are more social than the left. The left are composed of people who feel more for minority issues. This often is because they themselves are rejected from more popular mainstream culture.

Most right wing groups are culturally frat bros and cheerleaders throwing keg bush parties. No matter where you go in the world. As adults they’re chaining boats together and throwing keg parties and reminding everyone about their glory football days.

They are executives and others climbing the social ladder which puts them in a class where social order is important. Hence why they are more effective at spreading information and changing the culture.

They are more inline with the dominant culture.

The left is made up of sub groups within society. They are not a dominant culture. It’s why they’re more inline with minority issues. Socially they don’t even like each other.

And this is why the left fails. They fail to engage because they do things that nobody cares for but they lack social awareness to realize this. They’ll go block traffic while the right is throwing a boat party to gain support

Actually, I really appreciate you putting that together. Yes, it captures a big part of what I’ve been trying to say.

Maybe it is bad faith, but I also think that speaking directly, especially online, is genuinely hard. Still, one of my biggest frustrations is how difficult it is to spread and sustain important ideas and perspectives.

What really gets me is seeing people pour so much energy into a single protest driving for hours, standing in the rain, even getting arrested but then showing almost no interest in doing something like consistently sharing content online, which is easier and arguably more effective in the long run. That disconnect baffles me. Like posting and commenting on an issue for 24 hrs isn’t enough

And on top of that, there’s a real failure to support strong figureheads or voices who are actually good at communicating the message. These people burn out or get drowned out because there’s no consistent effort to lift them up. It’s like the momentum gets lost the moment the event ends, and without that sustained effort, we just end up watching things fall apart from the sidelines.

Thanks for proving my god damn point lol

That’s actually really funny you showed how right I am on this.

Also status quo and sub groups within society isn’t any mind blowing revelation. It’s just people fail to apply it to politics for some reason even though it explains so much of it.

Big errors in your thinking.

First is thinking you’re going to win with an inflated sense of competency. Pretending like you’re above it all is going to mean failure.

The reason for that is because of your second failure in thinking that “they’re all conservatives”. They’re not. Just like I’m not liberal even though I’ll vote that way. So what are they?

They’re no less smarter or any more dumb then you or me. They have different values. Majority of them are not just conservative or Republican or even right wing. They’re just people mildly paying attention. So saying ‘you should know just google it’ missed the fact that this opinion will lose every ounce of power politically.

Why your line of reasoning fails is it shows how you’re not willing to accept that all those people really do respond to certain messages over others. The left fails at creating content and winning social victories which are the foundational blocks to winning the bigger victories. Stop acting like you’re too big brained to understand what every single person has known for centuries. Messages should be easy to understand and digest to maximize its reach.

Everybody keeps calling them stupid. They’re not. I would even bet on average they have a much greater understanding of current events than people on the left. This is because the right has more surface area and easier to digest content, slogans, media, efforts than the left. We all see these simple slogans and think what a stupid message. Meanwhile it still rallies them to create city crippling convoys where those idiots are still on bridges today. We keep confusing their messages and politics as stupid without realizing it’s really just purposely simple whereas we’re all regulated to corners of the internet with barely anything to spread expect comments like “welp those idiots sure did it again, they usurped power while we passively watch”.

If they’re winning victory after victory and usurping power then whose the real idiots

Maybe or maybe there’s subtext

What

I disagree. It’s about the status quo. So to them it is about protecting regular people but in this sense the regular people are the status quo people. This is why they’re successful. They have higher social intelligence. The left even describes this system without realizing it. The left are more diverse sub groups. Minority groups within the pop culture. So political the right are mostly always trying to maintain the social order while the left looks to disrupt it.

The right are blue jeans and bubble gum America. The left are multiple sub groups of minorities all trying to make their main status quo while the status quo people reject all these groups in order to maintain their status quo.

This is why Republicans do try to conserve. They fight to maintain the blue jeans bubble gum way while the left fight to change it.

Can’t do that. That’s confrontation and that scares us. It’s why we’re here on Lemmy instead. We need to only stick to the choir.

Come on guys sing with me e minor

“Fascist Regressive Nazi Oligarchs”

Teaching them a lesson one derogatory category at a time.

The left is busy washing their hair

What the hell is he doing. A democrat man talks for a long time 👍

Just getting off a lazy ass isn’t enough. That’s not a win. Having someone drive two towns over just to stand in the rain and get their heads kicked in by police because they were misinformed how effective a protest would be is not winning. Telling each other we shouldn’t engage because it’s like rolling with pigs is self neutering.

My point is stop thinking that posting an article or making a comment is doing fuck all. Create good fucking content

Wow great job. You win whatever the you think you win here and still have a trump presidency and every other loss socially and politically and still don’t get why

Can’t wait to passively observe this so go down.

Holy shit you people never understand this do you…

Why does every grandmother know every right wing issue while all of you smuggly keep saying ‘Google it’ while you lose every battle you barely attempt to be mad about

Do your work if you’re so committed to these causes. But the effort in yourselves or stop crying all over the Internet how everyone are fascists and Nazis now.

Make fucking content

Cut the shit and wake up