• rbesfe@lemmy.ca
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    Overall average lifespan is a misleading statistic because it includes people who die young (infant mortality for example really brings it down). As you get older, the average lifespan for someone of your specific age increases.

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    I’m 42, overweight, and poor. I’m an elderly middle-aged person who’s maybe got 20-25 years to go.

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    I thought it’s because it’s the middle of your adult life. 50 is the midpoint between 20 and 80.

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    i think it makes more sense to split it into thirds: for example in germany, for biological men, its 78 year, meaning you enter your middle ages at 26 years old and your old age at 52 years old. For biological women, its 83 years of life expectancy, meaning you enter your middle ages at 27.6 years old and your old age at 55.3 years old

    edit: didn’t mean to cause a gender debate, i dont think the statistic acounts for trans people, which i don’t agree with. i would be curious to see the life expectancy statistics of trans conpared to cis people. i would guess cis would have been a better way for me to say it because i would think official statistics would go with your “official” gender but idk

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        But isn’t their point that the life expectancy of “biological men” also apply to trans women, and vice verca? That wouldn’t be conveyed if they used the prefix cis.

        This would of course only be relevant if life expectancy is a purely biological phenomenon, which I am not so sure it is.

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          A fair bit of the difference in lifespan isn’t genetic, it’s social. Statistically, men and women don’t do the same jobs, and some of those are much more dangerous than others. Men are also more likely to get into accidents and violence, leading to younger deaths.

          None of that cares about your genetics and your reproductive organs and hormones are only peripherally involved in it.

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          A fair point I hadn’t considered, but in that case AFAB/AMAB is still better than “biological male/female”, since that’s not even something most people know (I don’t know my chromosomal, hormonal, or DNA structures, do you?).

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            AFAB/AMAB

            And what does that mean? Biological male/female seems pretty clear to me, whatever you’re born with between your legs indicates which of the 2 you are…

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              Those mean Assigned Female/Male At Birth.

              And they exist because despite it being assigned that way at birth, gender or sex aren’t actually determined only by “what is between your legs”, nor are there just two binary options, since both gender and sex are a spectrum, not simply xx= vagina=female or xy=penis=male.

              Feel free to educate yourself

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                not really relevant though, xx being biologically male/xy being biologically female are uncommon enough

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                  And yet, they deserve to be included and considered. 🤯

                  (never mind that variation on the 3rd grade understanding of biology I described above are significantly more common than what I’m sure you’re willing to acknowledge. Sex and gender are spectrums, no matter how uncomfortable that might make you or how hard you try to deny it)

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                Yeah I suppose, but using random abbreviations everywhere does not make the point any clearer

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                  When the abbreviations are so commonly used that you can ask Google or Siri and get the right answer, then it’s fair to assume their meaning is clear to most people

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                  You not knowing a term doesn’t mean it isn’t useful or important or crystal clear, it just means you don’t know it.

                  So you could either educate yourself if you care, or don’t, but don’t try to frame the terms as the problem, or dismiss them (and by extension, the people who they apply to/benefit from their use) outright, that’s just a cop-out on your end.

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    My kids say:

    Birth to 30 is young.

    31-60 is middle aged.

    Over 60 is old.

    Over 90 is fucking old.

    People are aging more slowly than they did in the past, better information about health now. Look up 55 year old celebrities. These are certainly middle aged people, they aren’t young, and most don’t look old either. That is how I would define middle age and it’s getting longer. You can’t get old at 40, you will be old too long.

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      Celebrities pay a lot of money to stay looking the way they do, and most people who have to work labor and stuff dont have the privilege to look or feel that way