• apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    If sarcasm is too thick or folks do not understand: Substack is funded by many folks including noted piece of shit “free speech advocate” Marc Andreesen. It platforms many journalists but also many fascists and white supremacists. It has a discovery feature that often programmatically surfaces and promotes pieces on the platform written by Nazis and their ilk.

    TL; DR: Substack has a Nazi problem and it starts, as always, with the top.

    • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
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      1 month ago

      Great stuff!

      Substack hosted some number of neo-Nazis which I think just barely cracked into the double digits (if that), for the sake of free speech. I actually agreed with their stance, but it’s a pretty unpopular one (for some pretty valid reasons), and after the entire internet started yelling at them, they caved just over a year ago, and removed all the Nazis.

      Anyone who tells you that Substack “platforms” or “surfaces” or “promotes” any Nazis, present tense, is probably deliberately lying about the facts for the sake of spinning up a narrative. Anyone who is actually concerned about Nazis would be telling a totally different one: “We applied pressure to get them to deplatform Nazis, it worked, that’s how activist pressure is supposed to happen. Victory!”

      I suspect that when challenged, a lot of this stuff is going to change radically. The accusation of “promoting” Nazis is going to turn out to depend on a kind of Ship of Theseus logic that turns out to mean, they let Matt Taibbi post there back before it was clear that he had turned to the dark side, or something like that.

      I hesitated to even mention the thing here, for the same reason it’s bad for news programs to talk about the “debate” over global warming, but it’s an active narrative that’s in the Lemmy consciousness I guess, so we might as well talk about it even for the sake of actively debunking it.

      If you think I am wrong about any of this, please point me to even one actual Nazi currently active on Substack. Actually, also, can you demonstrate for me how their “discovery” feature often programmatically surfaces and promotes pieces et cetera? I suspect that accusation is simply completely made up, although I’m happy to be proven wrong.

      Edit: Expanded a little

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    1 month ago

    people want to get paid for their work, believe it or not.

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      Yeah. That’s one thing I really like about Substack, that’s pretty unique in the current journalism ecosystem. However, the point is perfectly valid that putting everything in one centralized place and that being how people get paid is a big big flaw.

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        14 days ago

        Which is why I cannot understand why people aren’t simply repurposing Lemmy to be a self-publishing platform, where one puts each category/subject in its own /c/ and one can keep publishing articles all the time, no hassling with any owner-platform, or whatever,

        & then one can just have a FundRazr for ( hopefully, not too likely, though, given the get-but-never-give culture this world has bottle-fed into the last few dozen generations ) getting paid.

        The Guardian fired most of their journalists, now, in the change-of-ownership, & that’s only a single example of how “journalism” works, nowadays ( ALL the others are equally selling-out journalism, ttbomk… …sigh… )

        so, self-hosting, making one’s own platform, seems to be the only sane alternative, then just federate with whom you want…

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