• wjrii@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    While ABA is not without its criticisms, especially for cases where the kids are already better able to function day-to-day and ABA is used to strongly encourage masking (back in the day they’d literally just beat kids down with both carrot and stick to get them to pretend to be “normal”), getting severely affected kids to engage and talk is basically what it’s best at, and yeah, you don’t just get “better” from ASD.

    Fucking horrific by UHC, as usual, and you know ABA is not the only care getting this kind of “analysis.”

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    2 months ago

    Regardless of the effectiveness of ABA, this is not a clinical position being taken by UHC, it’s a strategic plan that labels autistic children as a burden to their shareholders, an endeavors to shed this burden. It’s exactly this kind of ghoulish logic that have normies cheering the murder of insurance executives.

    People are waking up to the reality that for-profit health insurance is a parasitic scheme to collect premiums and deny care. The people who profit from this system, the ones who design, and improve upon it, are morally bankrupt and an active threat to the health and well being of most Americans.

    I don’t call for them to die like Osama Bin Laden, I call for them to live like him, afraid and in hiding.

  • Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    I’m all in favor of shitting on UHC, but ABA for autism is rather problematic, so they’re actually on the same page as the autism community on this one.

    EDIT: For those unfamiliar with it, it’s basically the autism equivalent of gay conversion therapy, trying to convert autistic children to neurotypical behavior. It’s not good for the autistic person’s own mental health.

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      I am an autistic person with an autistic child. “Therapies” that try to get us to act like you should be illegal. And stupid, we evolved as part of humanity for a reason.

      I masked my whole life, I don’t want my kid to be forced to as well.

      Cure ableism not Autism.

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        I’m autistic as well, although I was not diagnosed with it as a kid (they only diagnosed me with a “learning disability” rather than the complicated soup of neurodivergences I have).

        I’ve been lucky to not have to mask much in my life (although I do some, for sure). It’s a tragedy that most autistic kids are treated worse than I was. I think they all deserve better.

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      2 months ago

      We kept hearing this as well, but our personal experience has been the opposite. I think ABA therapy has changed dramatically over the years and shouldn’t be generalized as such. ABA seeks to understand behavior and includes that which is unseen. Specific therapists have certainly been problematic over the years though.

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        2 months ago

        The proof will be in what your child tells you, when they feel able to do so.

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      2 months ago

      I’ve seen firsthand ABA help plenty of high intensity Autistic children. When a kid is maturating in class constantly or doing tons of self harm, you need to try psychological methods to change that behavior. The equivalent of gay conversion therapy? I have never seen such a whackadoodle take.