• karashta@piefed.social
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    16 days ago

    In case anyone doesn’t know, you can download all of Wikipedia of you have 120GB of space. You can download a whole bunch of wikis straight off Kiwix.

    I refuse to let the fascists control knowledge

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    16 days ago

    Sounds like a terrorist threat to me. Unfortunately, our next administration is in bed with the terrorists.

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      15 days ago

      Doxing is a terrorist threat…?

      Edit: Downvote me if you want, but I legitimately don’t understand. Is there a joke im missing…?

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    16 days ago

    It would be a real shame if our furry overlords or some other group retaliated against the heritage foundation

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    16 days ago

    In June, a panel of Wikipedia editors declared the Anti-Defamation League a “generally unreliable” source of information about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    And there was an outcry this fall among some Jewish scholars and pro-Israel activists over edits to Wikipedia’s entry for Zionism to add references to “colonization.”

    So basically the usual zionist hostility towards logical conclusions based on mountains of credible evidence. Except taken to 11.

    roadmap for fighting antisemitism and anti-Zionism

    Extremely unfun fact: Zionism and the aggressively counterfactual defense of it is the number one cause of ACTUAL antisemitism in the world.

    Some people who have never been bigoted before start at justified outrage at the atrocities committed by the fascist apartheid regime in charge of Israel and go down rabbit holes conflating Israel and all Jewish people, leading to some of the most disgusting conspiracy theories in existence.

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      16 days ago

      Do you have a source about the Zionism thing? Because antisemitism was alive and well for most of western history. And for me personally seeing Israel starve a bunch of children in Gaza make me hate Israel / IDF, not the Jewish baker down the street.

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        Do you have a source about the Zionism thing?

        gestures vaguely at every Zionist conflating Israel with all Jewish people

        You can’t just pretend that committing a laundry list of atrocities is acceptable while calling yourself representative of a wider group of people without some of the less discerning and/or more conspiracy-minded people taking you at your word and resenting the people as a whole.

        Not saying that antisemitism is in any way acceptable, of course, but just like brutal oppression breeds terrorism, committing or defending things that should never be accepted while saying that you represent all of Jewdom is going to teach some people the wrong lessons.

        Because antisemitism was alive and well for most of western history

        Yes, and it has traditionally been mostly caused by the othering of Jewish people by conservative clergy or politicians trying to keep their “flock” in check, but that’s not the main cause anymore.

        While the “traditional” causes still exist, in a world where most people can read about and watch atrocities on TV, the Hasbara talking points meant to mollify and deceive the masses are no longer working, so instead of convincing people that the atrocities are necessary for Jewish people to be safe, some people are being convinced of another lie: that the atrocities are the kind every Jewish person would do if given the chance

        And for me personally seeing Israel starve a bunch of children in Gaza make me hate Israel / IDF, not the Jewish baker down the street.

        Same here, but not everyone is able and willing to make that distinction while the war criminals themselves and their most ardent defenders keep insisting that there’s no difference.

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          The thing is, gesturing vaguely at something we thing is obvious, is not really a source. Even 1+1=2 has to be proven. I suspect that Zionism is just used as a pretext to be antisemitic by people who were going to anyways. But I also don’t have any data to back it up.

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            16 days ago

            The thing is, gesturing vaguely at something (…) obvious, is not really a source

            Yeah, it’s not like there’s a lot of people honestly and precisely detailing how they developed their bigoted attitudes. That doesn’t mean that you can’t reason your way to a logical conclusion, though.

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                No, this (ascertaining the underlying causes of bigotry) is a place where definitive data by definition can’t exist and thus logically reaching the most probable conclusion based on what IS known must take its place.

                I’m trying to assume that your demands for the impossible are in good faith, but it’s getting difficult .

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                  As I said before, claiming data can’t exist is a lazy cope-out. I also presented an example of data that could work: antisemitic attacks per day vs activity of Israel in Gaza, plotted over time. Just an example, I’m no sociologist.

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        Absolutely!

        All kinds of violent suppression is, but the sheer scale, audacity and inhumanity as well as the complicity of most of the richest and most powerful countries in the world makes for an especially potent recipe for the kind of trauma and feelings of helplessness that leads to the extreme radicalization of oppressed people