What if someone in a government agency just started printing birth certificates and social security cards for everyone? How would anyone know the difference? Like fake IDs on a mass scale.

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    6 days ago

    Just a reminder that last time the US pulled this shit, many US citizens were deported to Mexico and nobody with power cared because they were brown.

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    10 days ago

    Oh, I thought you were pointing out that funding the process so they can get their documents would be the solution, which is true. The whole ‘border crisis’ is a manufactured problem caused by defunding the immigration process, especially for asylum seekers, and capping the number that can immigrate to a ridiculously low number.

    The solution is improving the process so they can be documented.

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        10 days ago

        Given how the US is detaching itself from the concepts of truth or facts or rules, why not. “Hey is your ID fake”? “Fuck you police officer”. “My bad, have a nice day sir”

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    10 days ago

    When they talk about illegal immigrants they actually mean brown people.

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    10 days ago

    They don’t care about documents. Real or fake.

    https://midmichigannow.com/news/nation-world/ice-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-raid-in-newark-new-jersey-ocean-seafood-depot-detains-undocumented-residents-citizens-and-veteran-mayor-decries-lack-of-warrant-president-donald-trump-executive-orders-immigrants

    “Today, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents raided a local establishment in the City of Newark, detaining undocumented residents as well as citizens, without producing a warrant. One of the detainees is a U.S. military veteran who suffered the indignity of having the legitimacy of his military documentation questioned,”

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          In the past, maybe, but I feel like with the current ruling party having all branches of government under their control that they will become more and more blatant and just expect pardons or the USSC to let them off. It’s not like Republicans would actually impeach and remove anyone on their own team.

          Edit: grammar

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    10 days ago

    A county administrator could go rogue and start issuing birth certificates to random adults, but they’d quickly be found out. Then it’s easy to spot the fakes like “All Hazard County birth certs issued between 2025-04-01 and 2025-04-20 are sus.“

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      10 days ago

      How would they be found out, though? When was the last time someone asked for your birth certificate?

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        5 days ago

        Are you an adult living in the US? Because it’s pretty much always required if you need a government ID.

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    They’ll come to an agreement to keep undocumented immigrants real fast once they learn that communities will suffer a large tax shortage and labor shortage without them.

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    10 days ago

    Why would the government serving the rich help the migrant worker obtain stronger bargaining position?

    Sometimes it feels like people don’t understand these basic concepts.

    Migrant labour is used to suppress domestic wages.

    H1b for white collar and illegals for blue collar and farm. The moment you give either of them same legal standing as the indigenous population, they will ask for market rate. Literally defeats the purpose of importing them.

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        10 days ago

        Exactly, work visa give employer more bargaining power over the wage slave. That’s the key feature of the system.