• Th4tGuyII@fedia.io
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    9 days ago

    Genuinely fuck Musk. Cries he’s being called a Nazi while doing everything in his power to act like one.

    Nobody does a Nazi salute by accident Elon… And especially not with a face looking like he just bust a nut while doing it.

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      9 days ago

      You’re not wrong, but this article is more about Netanyahu’s flexibility around ‘antisemitism.’

      You know, how it’s now considered antisemitic to criticize Israel’s war crimes, but it’s totally not antisemitic to do a Nazi salute and joke about the holocaust as long as you support Israel’s war crimes?

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        I think they think “Nazi” or “anti-semite” is just like “bitch”; it’s an insult largely divorced from its linguistic origins. So a person is a Nazi if you don’t like what they’re doing, and the word means nothing more.

        Edit: I think people misunderstood and thought I said these guys aren’t Naizs. They are. They just don’t like when people call them that because they don’t know how words work.

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          No. Elon is evidently a Nazi as he constantly advocates for facism and sepecifically uses the symbols and language of the historocal German Nazis.

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            I know. But he doesn’t use the term as if it describes an actual thing. He uses it to insult people he doesn’t like. He’s more than happy to BE a Nazi, but not be CALLED a Nazi.

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 days ago

    Wild how the only people defending Musk making a Hitler salute are a war criminal who is committing genocide and his father, who impregnated his step daughter twice.

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    He’s pretty clearly intentionally taunting everyone who opposes him, just demonstrating what he can get away with. That’s what all of this has been about. He might not be anti-Semitic (please don’t at me – he likely is – I said might) and rather is just a pure troll dickhead.

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      9 days ago

      Just like with some of the 4chan idiots though, there is little functional difference between being a true believer nazi and merely pretending to be one.

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      Tbh, he’s a massive douchebag on a power trip. It wouldn’t shock me at all if he wasn’t anti-Semitic and is just trying to push people’s buttons. At the same time, if this is true, he’s also shifting the Overton window and showing what true Nazis can safely get away with in the public eye.

      That said, there’s a good chance he’s also just an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi piece of shit…and still doing the latter part of that.

      Regardless, he’s a fascist either way, so fuck him.

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    9 days ago

    Nazis siding with Israel against Jews is no great surprise at this point.

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    9 days ago

    The tweet for those curious

    Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that coming,”

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    I know this isn’t the point, but they’re not even good jokes? On a technical level. Forget the subject matter for a moment, they’re just bad puns that aren’t very funny or creative.

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      Agree, but the point of these “jokes” isn’t to be funny. The first objective is to offend and cause harm. The second is to phrase the offense in such a way that the offender has the option to say, “it was just a joke” when confronted by the offended. The guy has far more interest in causing harm to people than making them laugh.

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    I had a discussion on an industry Slack yesterday with a guy because I called Elon a nazi.

    The guy brought immediately the discussion in DM and there I noticed he was wearing a kippa in his profile picture so I asked where was he from…

    And he snapped and started to call me a jew hater and telling me that I wanted to bring him to the gas chambers and all the usual bullying.

    Turns out the term they are using to make this connection is called Holocaust Trivialization.

    I screenshot the whole discussion, blocked him everywhere I could find him (as I am doing with all Israeli people and businesses to be fair) and kept going with my life while he was still spewing insults at me.

    This guy is the frontman of the most important conference in my industry.

    Keep ready.

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      8 days ago

      wow and is he an Elon fan too? or is he just one of those people who call everyone anti-semitist even those speaking against literal Nazi sympathisers lol

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        He put his hands forward and said, “I don’t particularly like Musk”, but really, I see no difference between the two categories you described. The Israeli narrative of not allowing to “trivialize the Holocaust” when I have just been calling the guy a nazi because he speaks, acts and supports like one is exactly the kind of wildcard that a Musk/Trump sympathizer dreams of.

        As long as you don’t touch the Jews (or better israel and zionists), you are in the clear.

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          “dont particularly like Elon” is pretty soft compared to the reaction you got. I don’t know what he expects a non-trivial Nazi sympathiser to be like in 2025, someone getting a rifle and going around killing Jews randomly while singing “Die Fahne hoch”?

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            My problem is that I called an American-naturalized South African a nazi because of his political support, rhetoric and behavior and he answers “don’t trivialize the Holocaust”: how did he get there?

            And what happens now that nazis are friends of Netanyahu? All clear?

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      taking notes ah so nothing says anti-Nazi more than autoblocking Jews, interesting

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    This is in no way a defense of Elon. He is a horrible Nazi and he hates Jews and I’m a Jew.

    That said, I’m not seeing where he brought up the Holocaust. He made a bunch of very offensive puns regarding Nazi leadership, but unless I missed it, nothing about the Holocaust. All the critical responses seem to mention it so maybe I’m missing it?

    I guess I feel like “makes Holocaust jokes” is just unnecessary hyperbole when what he said was awful enough.

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    Can we please stop paying attention to this jerk?

    I know reposting his Tweets makes news sites money, and gets upvotes, and whatever, but for heavens sake, don’t feed the trolls.

    Musk is what over feeding a troll ultimately looks like.

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      9 days ago

      He has the president’s ear and is already contributing to wrecking the country with fascist tactics while being open about being a nazi.

      We can’t just ignore him anymore.

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        9 days ago

        Not to mention that he has enough purchasing power and assets to destroy entire countries without getting involved in politics

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      Corporate news media is terrified of being sued for libel by Musk, even though it was obviously a Nazi salute. So they use words like “seemed” and “appeared” to avoid saying the obvious.

      But the problem is, if you want to be taken seriously as a “news” organization, then you have to speak truth to power and that’s going to make you a lot of enemies. Companys have legal departments to minimize their risk, but in the case of journalism, that department exists to get you OUT of trouble not to keep you from ever getting into it.

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    I think the best thing to do is just completely ignore everything the guy says. Don’t feed the trolls.

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      I’ll ignore him once he’s no long relevant in the public space. Musk isn’t something like the Kardashians. Politicans and CEOs are listening to him.