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he’s so desperate to become relevant
Wrong person survived that night
The guy he shot was a pedo. - and a felon*?
Edit : Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out. https://apnews.com/article/shootings-gun-politics-58c52e6d36475b5e7cd79ccaeffb5416
“If you don’t agree with the extrajudicial execution of a person by an 18-year old dipshit, you’re a pedophile”
Seriously, put some attempt in please. That is just fucking lazy
Not what I said. The things I said were two different statements. Don’t come at me cause you’ve got small skeletons in your closet.
That’s a joke.
You’re right, what I meant was the guy deserves some sympathy because he’s dead. The guy does not deserve sympathy based on his previous actions, AND he tried to kill some kid.
Kyle is objectively in the right here, but he shouldn’t have been where he was, doing what he was doing. Fuck Kyle. I’m not condoning him.
Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out.
You’re trying to claim ^ that doesn’t clearly imply that people who downvoted your comment were “probably pedos”?
Eh. Is this really worth the effort? For either of us?
I like forums. If you don’t, then don’t use them.
Especially don’t use them if you don’t have the moxy to stand behind your own words. Word’s which you said. Which go like this:
Not sure about downvotes. Probably the few pedos on here saddened their numbers are thinning out.
You’re trying to walk back the thing you now realise was pretty silly to wrote down. So youre trying to ignore your bs while still replying something.
You directly implied people who disagree with you are pedophiles. What an intellectual take.
Yea you said that part already cause it’s what I said. By that logic if you are disagreeing that this isn’t worth the time to keep going back and forth about youre probably a pedophile.
I like forums too 🙂. I also realIze what I said was fucking weird and back tracked a bit. If you let this go, I’m sure your experience here will be ever so slightly less negative. There’s plenty of other things to be doing on Lemmy then arguing with someone who’s joke didn’t land for you specifically.
It would be entirely easier to call me a dick out loud, chuckle at how much better you are for thinking a different opinion and moving on.
Whether the person he shot was a convicted or suspected felon is absolutely irrelevant, vigilante justice is no justice at all, not to mention that he had no way of knowing anything about the people he shot.
That said, I absolutely believe all three were legitimate self-defense. The problem here isn’t that he shot people in self-defense, but that he was a minor in possession of a firearm. Anyone who enabled him to bring that firearm to Kenosha should be held responsible (if they haven’t already).
So you admit he was fighting for his life?
He was, but it’s not self-defense if the only reason you are in that situation is because you created it.
If I put myself and another person in some room that’s rigged to lock and not unlock until the other person is dead… Technically I am fighting for my life, but it’s not self-defense because this wouldn’t have happened if I didn’t seek this out intentionally…
And that’s basically what Rittenhouse did waving that gun around
The court disagrees. Just because somewhere is dangerous, doesn’t mean you’re not allowed to be there. If you want to go somewhere dangerous and you do not want to be at more risk, you bring protection.
Don’t fuck around if you don’t want to find out.
It’s not that he went that out all, it’s that there was a boatload of evidence implying that killing was his motive for wanting to go in the first place.
HEY everyone, this guy ^^ was THERE THAT NIGHT! We should all RELY TO him with our detailed questions about the events that unfolded since he clearly knows and has witnessed the events and is therefore an unimpeachable source of objective truth on this subject!
Why weren’t you in the trial, out of curiosity? I’d have thought they’d be after your testimony, you know, since you know all this stuff and are really smart. Just wondering…
Dude. He was found not guilty. If there was evidence of him being there for no reason other than to kill somebody then I’m sure he would have been convicted. I remember fairly well that he retreated but got attacked by a guy trying to hit him in the head with a skateboard (weapon) and shooting the arm of a felon brandishing a handgun at him.
I’m sure Kyle is glad you’re out here white-knighting for him.
Whatever you say bro.
https://heavy.com/news/gaige-grosskreutz/
I didn’t remember it perfectly, but certainly a lot that is ignored by those who hate Rittenhouse. I was mistaken when I said the guy with the handgun is a felon. He WAS a felon and seems like an all around piece of shit, but his felony was expunged so he was legally allowed to possess a firearm. He did have a loaded handgun in his hand when approaching Kyle though.
What a ridiculous thing to say. They didn’t insinuate that in any way.
The other gun would disagree with the validity of that.
Why did he cross state lines with a weapon after threatening violence?
Because it’s not against the law and had shit that he was doing there. You act like state borders are like national borders.
And what “shit” was he doing there?
Cleaning graffiti if I recall correctly. Cleaning up in general in a dangerous area subject to some riots.
Rittenhouse is a murderer.
Disagree, all three counts were legitimate self-defense. Two people tried to grab his gun, and a third pointed a gun at him, and each of those are clear-cut cases of self-defense.
The real issue here is that he shouldn’t have been there with a rifle in the first place. But if you have a firearm and someone tries to grab it, it’s your responsibility to maintain control of that firearm. I don’t think he is a murderer, but he was (and probably still is) an irresponsible kid who shouldn’t have unsupervised possession of a firearm.
He went there looking for an excuse to commit self defense. He’s a fucking murderer.
Again, putting yourself into a dangerous situation isn’t a crime.
I don’t think he’s a good person and he’s certainly not a hero, but I also don’t think he’s a murderer. He’s a minor who should not have been armed in that situation. But once he was in that situation, his actions were justified self-defense.
Again, putting yourself into a dangerous situation isn’t a crime.
Going there with the intention of killing people is. Which Rittenhouse did.
You can’t pre-meditate self-defense. You can go somewhere with the expectation that you’ll need to defend yourself, which is dumb, but not a crime. Planning to hurt someone is very different from trying to put yourself into a situation where hurting someone would be justified. The first is a crime, the second is just being stupid.
For example, look at those people who do 1st amendment “audits” who basically go to places where they know the police would be called with the hope that the police will violate their rights (e.g. filming at a police station). That’s not a crime, but it’s usually a waste of time, but it sometimes provides a valuable service if it creates a situation where bad cops break the law on camera and get held accountable. But whether it provides a valuable service or not isn’t particularly relevant here, what’s relevant is that it’s not a crime.
And that’s what happens here. Kyle Rittenhouse is one of my least favorite types of people, but I firmly believe that he was justified in using his firearm in self-defense. That doesn’t make him a hero or even a good person (I think he’s a terrible person), but it does mean he’s not a murderer. Murder is the unlawful killing of another person, and his actions were lawful self-defense.
No it is not a threat. To tell somebody that you’re willing to defend yourself and your rights with violence is only a threat to those who will take them. It’s a secondary reaction not a primary action.
No one came to take anything away from him. The only rights infringed are the people whose live he ended prematurely. Stop your bullshit.
I want my cake back.
Ah yes, everyone remembers the Cake massacre of Columbine in 1999…
Would you think the same if it was a comment about taking women’s conception rights/bodily autonomy? The whole “handmaid’s tale” thing is exactly this. Everything is the handmaid’s tale when it comes to women’s rights, but these rights are just problematic. I want women to have rights, and Americans to have gun rights. Rights for everyone, tyranny for no one.
Would you think the same if it was a comment about taking women’s conception rights/bodily autonomy?
No, because Women’s right are good. Taking away some of them is bad. The point your missing is I don’t want you to have guns. Any argument you make about “taking away some rights is a step towards taking away more rights” is going to be met with me saying “Good.”
None of this is an argument that it is good for you to have guns. I find it interesting that the comic equates guns to cake, something that is a luxury that serves no purpose other than the users enjoyment. If someone takes away all your cake your not suddenly living in some hellscape, you’re just not as happy as you would be with cake. If you own guns just because it makes you happy, you are exactly the type of person who should not be allowed to own guns.
That’s what we call mask off. If the gun grabbers wouldn’t be so sneaky and two-faced we’d have a real outcome based on what the public wants, not “won’t someone PLEASE think of the children” emotional arguments hiding the real goal.
we’d have a real outcome based on what the public wants
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/26/politics/cnn-poll-gun-laws/index.html
Overall, 64% say they favor stricter gun control laws, with 36% opposed
Online politics are such a complete waste of time. I’d lose all respect for anyone in real life that spends half their day bullshitting about politics online. That’s you can tell they have no life.
Says the person bitching about politics online. Isn’t ironic don’t ya think?
Yep. I’m tired of seeing it everywhere. Now if you had brought this bullshit up with me in real life, I would be doing a lot more than just “bitchin”
Until the times it spills over into real life and people die… but meh waste of time right?
Lmaoooooo. You think bullshitting about it online has any impact of influence over what happens in real life? Even your shitty little protests and community outreach efforts don’t affect anything that happens irl. You really think your little vote, which doesn’t even matter, can change the entire country let alone the whole fucking world?
What is this about? The Israel-Palestine bullshit? A region that’s been a hotbed of conflict for thousands of years? You think somehow your shitty little protest that no one gives a fuck about can somehow stop whatever’s going on in another part of the world? Snap tf back to reality. Politics is a completely meaningless venture that’s entirely out of your control as an average individual with no power.
