No one is hiring on the content of anyone’s character. I get the sentiment here but it doesn’t work. No one is stopping them from hiring two people aside from greed. Stop blaming the worker and start blaming the employer that had to be forced to even look at people outside of straight white men.
A company that didn’t hire the best employees would suffer and fail. Their competition would hire these people then put them out of business. Go capitalism and the indivisible hand?
This only works if you assume that a company can only be successful with the best talent, and that simply isn’t true. Disney is massively profitable but its ranks are filled with nepo-hires, idiots, whatever - all kinds of “not the best.” We like to pretend that business is a purely pragmatic and as such integrity will automatically occur based on the profit motive… but that just isn’t reality, at all. In reality business is personal, and crony, and human-driven, and so many other things that keep it miles away from being the pragmatism you’re implying.
This is why businesses are full of unskilled nephews, old business school friends, etc.
So framing this as “DEI” vs “merit-based” is flawed as fuck because “merit-based” was never actually on the table.
So why fight for “DEI”? fight for merit based. Fully fund education across the country. Make it illegal to ask things like photo,sex, race, age,name, access to social media, requiring drug test on the application for being hired. Fight to Increase workers rights. But instead you are wasting all this energy into what? Another way to divide Americans and the rich owners of capital laugh and cheer.
First, I want to clarify that I am not “fighting for DEI.” Instead, I am dismissing the narrative that frames the current situation as a conflict between DEI and merit. This perspective is not only misleading but also fundamentally incorrect.
It’s important to recognize that the existence of one initiative does not preclude the existence of others. For example, free school lunch programs do not conflict with disaster relief efforts. Similarly, DEI initiatives do not conflict with other movements aimed at creating a more merit-based system.
In terms of my personal opinion, if pressed, I would find it challenging to label DEI as simply a “good” thing, likely for reasons similar to your own. Life is complex and nuanced, and we rarely encounter straightforward solutions. However, I do see DEI as a significantly “better” approach, which brings me to why others might “fight for DEI” as you say.
Life is inherently complicated and often an uphill battle. When starting in the muck, seeking a solution that keeps your boots clean is unrealistic. While we may desire perfect solutions and easily identify them, implementing those solutions is a different challenge. The powers that be often resist change because they benefit from the status quo. Therefore, when pursuing progress, we sometimes need to consider compromise for the sake of achieving meaningful impact.
So, we are not discussing merit versus DEI; we are comparing the status quo to DEI. In this comparison, DEI represents greater opportunities for a lot of individuals who have been unfairly excluded. Yes, this does not solve the greater problem nor does it address it in an equally or means-based way and yes this potentially introduces additional disparties; these things are true. DEI does not solve social inequity nor does it suddenly represent a “fair” system. But it pretty objectively is an improvement on the deep cronyism and gatekeeping of the existing status quo. It’s not good, and it’s not fair. But it’s BETTER, and it’s MORE FAIR.
We may not be reaching the summit of the mountain with DEI, but we are certainly elevating our position.
I hope this provides some clarity. However, you may find a more passionate advocate for DEI can offer a more satisfying answer.
Hey am I crazy or an asshole because I want people to be judged on the content of their character not the color of their skin?
No one is hiring on the content of anyone’s character. I get the sentiment here but it doesn’t work. No one is stopping them from hiring two people aside from greed. Stop blaming the worker and start blaming the employer that had to be forced to even look at people outside of straight white men.
A company that didn’t hire the best employees would suffer and fail. Their competition would hire these people then put them out of business. Go capitalism and the indivisible hand?
This only works if you assume that a company can only be successful with the best talent, and that simply isn’t true. Disney is massively profitable but its ranks are filled with nepo-hires, idiots, whatever - all kinds of “not the best.” We like to pretend that business is a purely pragmatic and as such integrity will automatically occur based on the profit motive… but that just isn’t reality, at all. In reality business is personal, and crony, and human-driven, and so many other things that keep it miles away from being the pragmatism you’re implying.
This is why businesses are full of unskilled nephews, old business school friends, etc.
So framing this as “DEI” vs “merit-based” is flawed as fuck because “merit-based” was never actually on the table.
So why fight for “DEI”? fight for merit based. Fully fund education across the country. Make it illegal to ask things like photo,sex, race, age,name, access to social media, requiring drug test on the application for being hired. Fight to Increase workers rights. But instead you are wasting all this energy into what? Another way to divide Americans and the rich owners of capital laugh and cheer.
Let’s establish some frameworks here.
First, I want to clarify that I am not “fighting for DEI.” Instead, I am dismissing the narrative that frames the current situation as a conflict between DEI and merit. This perspective is not only misleading but also fundamentally incorrect.
It’s important to recognize that the existence of one initiative does not preclude the existence of others. For example, free school lunch programs do not conflict with disaster relief efforts. Similarly, DEI initiatives do not conflict with other movements aimed at creating a more merit-based system.
In terms of my personal opinion, if pressed, I would find it challenging to label DEI as simply a “good” thing, likely for reasons similar to your own. Life is complex and nuanced, and we rarely encounter straightforward solutions. However, I do see DEI as a significantly “better” approach, which brings me to why others might “fight for DEI” as you say.
Life is inherently complicated and often an uphill battle. When starting in the muck, seeking a solution that keeps your boots clean is unrealistic. While we may desire perfect solutions and easily identify them, implementing those solutions is a different challenge. The powers that be often resist change because they benefit from the status quo. Therefore, when pursuing progress, we sometimes need to consider compromise for the sake of achieving meaningful impact.
So, we are not discussing merit versus DEI; we are comparing the status quo to DEI. In this comparison, DEI represents greater opportunities for a lot of individuals who have been unfairly excluded. Yes, this does not solve the greater problem nor does it address it in an equally or means-based way and yes this potentially introduces additional disparties; these things are true. DEI does not solve social inequity nor does it suddenly represent a “fair” system. But it pretty objectively is an improvement on the deep cronyism and gatekeeping of the existing status quo. It’s not good, and it’s not fair. But it’s BETTER, and it’s MORE FAIR.
We may not be reaching the summit of the mountain with DEI, but we are certainly elevating our position.
I hope this provides some clarity. However, you may find a more passionate advocate for DEI can offer a more satisfying answer.
Yeah I’m not reading this. 😂 Good luck maybe you can be a pilot someday and live a kickass life.
Genuine ignorant childish behavior.
Big man can speak up to whine but can’t put in the work to read a couple paragraphs.
Legitimately pathetic.
You can want it all you like, but history has shown that that only works on paper.
Maybe someday that’ll no longer be the case, but that day isn’t today.
So you don’t have a dream.