• Omnipitaph@reddthat.com
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    15 days ago

    Okedoke, well I just learned that I have no concrete grasp of political labels and need to do a LOT of research.

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      15 days ago

      Extreme simplification:

      Liberalism: supports capitalism. Current system + tweaks

      Leftism: supports anticapitalism of some form, the two biggest umbrellas being Marxism/Communism and Anarchism

      Marxism/Communism: supports collectivization, public ownership, and central planning (I have an introductory reading list if you want to learn more, or just read Principles of Communism)

      Anarchism: supports full horizontalism and networks of communes

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          14 days ago

          They’re conveniently leaving out the entire concept of Socialism for some reason, while making sure to mention Marxism by name.

          So I would make sure to add that to the list. Communism is a specific form of socialism, but the two are non synonymous.

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            14 days ago

            I leave out “socialism” because for the vast majority of actual implementations, they have been Marxist in character, and additionally any Socialist system in my opinion would either progress to Communism or regress to Capitalism, making it kind of redundant to split from Communism.

            Communism isn’t a type of Socialism if we are being nitpicky, but the Mode of Production after Socialism.

            Additionally, I did say it was an extreme simplification, and I meant that. I’m not diving into syndicalism, utopianism, Posadism, Maoism, Gonzaloism, Trotskyism, Hoxaism, etc because ultimately they don’t need to be delved into for someone with no knowledge.

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              13 days ago

              I know we are engaged in other conversation. I will read the other comment when I have time to kill.

              I need to respond to the continuum idea of politics namely: capitalism -> socialism -> communism. The continuum is a creation of Lenin in State and Revolution. A similar anachronism is suggesting there is a continuum to evolution. Continuum’s are silly for evolution and politics.

    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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      14 days ago

      Liberalism = individual rights, small government/low regulation

      The meme sucks because you can be liberal left or right