• Eldritch@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    Yep. Basically a religion. Like conservatism and capitalism. They can not fail. Only be failed.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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      21 days ago

      It really is absurd how the metaphorical party line hasn’t changed in the past 100 years. Everything is preordained, except for anytime our noble forces fail, in which case it’s an aberration and The Conspiracy Of The International Bourgeoisie

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        21 days ago

        Yep. Theories are a fine thing to have. But you have to test them. And if they fail every time they’re tested then you need new theories. And barring that. The fact that things have changed so much between the time the theories were crafted and now. Large portions certainly are not relevant as they used to be if ever at all.

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      21 days ago

      No joke, tankies are conservatives. The word doesn’t mean right-wing. It’s the consistent label for people who view reality as a team sport.

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    21 days ago

    I dont know the context, the only word I realoze is AES as in encryption, which makes it kinda funny, but probably not correct.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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      21 days ago

      “AES” is ‘actually existing socialism’. To tankies, this means things like “The Soviet Union”, “The PRC”, “North Korea”, and “Venezuela”

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            21 days ago

            “Claims to adore Marx, but seems to decry every single movement to put his ideas into practice”

            Didn’t Marx disown the Russian Revolution and other violent attempts at implementing communism? Y’know, the very factions these guys put on a pedestal?

            • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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              21 days ago

              No, Marx didn’t live long enough to see the Russian Revolution, and Marx was certainly not adverse to violent revolution. Though he mused that some sufficiently democratic bourgeois societies might be capable of a peaceful transition to socialism, it was certainly not the focus of his writings. Funny enough, he did suggest that Russia was the least ready for socialism of all the major European nations.

              Marx, however, believed that development into a bourgeois capitalist society was a necessary prerequisite for a socialist dictatorship of the proletariat. The Bolsheviks were a radical departure from this line of thinking, proposing both that the peasantry were a revolutionary class and that a capitalist mode of production was not necessary to transition to a socialist workers’ state. In addition, the Bolsheviks, despite their claims, were quite anti-democratic, which goes strongly against the spirit and letter of Marx’s writings.

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            20 days ago

            I’d be interested in what you have to say against the black panther party, if you have the time.

            • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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              20 days ago

              The only thing I said against them was that they didn’t accomplish much in practical terms, which apparent translated to an undying hatred according to tankie morons who love to talk about me, lol.