• NickwithaC@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    *someone who you’d already fired and then tried to blow up the building reapplied…

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        There a multiple people running, the only third party candidate that is actually on the ballot in all 50 states (RFK is not on all 50 states ballots) Chase Oliver gets no airtime, the msm rather talk to you about brain worms then a practical candidate.

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          Yeah but Chase wants to completely get rid of all tariffs, so, I mean, some of his policies aren’t the greatest. He’s also got absolutely no idea how healthcare works, wants to completely abandon all our military bases, and he doesn’t even mention global warming in his policies.

          Guns? Great. Drugs? Great. Crime and punishment? Great. Privacy? Great.

          But most of his power and economics policies would completely dog-fuck the US economy and our ability to negotiate on the international stage.

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            So a less then perfect candidate is worse than Trump or Biden? I just want to understand why so many write him off while hating the situation writing him off gives us.

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              Oh, no, if I would vote for more than one person, I’d probably vote for him, Biden, and whoever happens to be the green party candidate (hello Approval Voting). But as it stands right now, I can only pick one, and Biden offers the fewest compromises in the least damaging areas, in my opinion. Well, maybe whoever is leading the Greens, but my state is somewhat competitive so I’m forced to be strategic and pick between the two front-runners.

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            Chase wants to completely get rid of all tariffs, so, I mean, some of his policies aren’t the greatest

            He makes a compelling argument against tariffs as public policy. But he’s still a business-first libertarian, which means his views on environmental regulation and labor rights and various federal public services also suck.

            Guns? Great. Drugs? Great. Crime and punishment? Great.

            Eh. I wish his immigration policy was as laisse-faire as his guns and drugs policy.

            But most of his power and economics policies would completely dog-fuck the US economy

            Our economy was dog-fucked ages ago, when we deindustrialized the midwest and plowed endless subsidies into FIRE and Tech sectors. Now we’ve got a bunch of computers churning out trillion dollar digital nothings, while investment cash flows like a waterfall into finance, insurance, and real estate, but our actual industrial capacity remains in a vestigial state.

            We can’t even make enough new silicon chips to feed our antiquated ICE engine automotive industry.

            I don’t think Oliver really has a path out of that mess, but its hardly his fault we got here.

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              I mean, yeah, I agree on pretty much all counts. But, you know, typically you renovate a shitty house instead of punching holes in the walls.

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    So HR left us with just two choices, assured us they were the best of the best, and of course it’s two geriatrics.

    … one of whom is a rehire that tried to lynch us when we laid him off the first time. Good job HR, you wonder why people hate you.

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    The only thing Biden is “crushing” is thousands of Palestinian civilians under the rubble of their former homes.

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        Oh I got another one.

        Biden is crushing it, and by “it” I mean my hope that Trump will be a one-term president.

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            Biden doesn’t have to run! Run any other Democrat with some publicity and bonafides. Continuing to prop up a corpse that is doing less genocide than the other option would isn’t the virtue that you think it is.

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              Run any other Democrat with some publicity and bonafides.

              You can’t even come up with a name, but yes, let’s vote for 'Theoretical Better Candidate."

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                Leftist started grumbling about Biden’s inadequacy right after he barely won the general. They started yelling after he sold out railway workers. They started sounding alarm bells once his polling started to trail Trump’s during the latter’s multiple concurrent criminal cases. They started screeching once the genocide started on Oct 7.

                For you to sit here now and throw your hands up saying “well its too late! we don’t have an alternative!” does nothing other than show how ignorant you have been these past few years. Your head has been in the sand, and this backslide into fascism we’re seeing now is the only logical conclusion. The leftists were right about Biden all along, and that is becoming increasingly clear as time goes on.

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                  You can’t even come up with a name, but yes, let’s vote for 'Theoretical Better Candidate."

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            Not everything is about defeating Trump. Some of us have a moral compass.

            For example, I will not ignore, deny, or downplay an ongoing genocide just because it would suit my presidential preference.

            Additionally, now is the best time to attack Biden, because he is a huge underdog after his horrific debate performance. Attacking Biden is pushing the DNC to change candidates before it’s too late. Supporting Biden at this juncture is just helping to elect President Trump.

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              That’s the most privileged moral compass imaginable.

              Actual people in America have died because of Trump’s policies. Not just due to Covid, but because they were denied abortions, or because the people with guns knew the cops wouldn’t care if a transperson got killed.

              What are you going to say when Trump has the right to deputize a million or so Kyle Rittenhouses?

              That you made the tough call?

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                You are acting like my joke comment on a Lemmy meme is going to sway the election lol

                Look I get it, you will support Biden until he loses, then you will blame people like me for his loss. It’s a comfy position to hold, you never have to examine your own positions- just blame others.

                We both agree Trump is horrible. You dont have to remind me. My beloved grandmother, the best person in my life, died of covid during the Trump presidency. I will never forgive him, and I certainly will never vote for him.

                But just because I fucking hate Trump doesn’t mean I’m going to deny reality. Actual people die because of Trumps policies, that we agree on. But Gazans are actual people too, and you seem to be denying that.

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            “Democracy is when you shut your mouth and accept the positions (genocide) the party gives to you.”

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      I forget, what did the other candidate say on the debate about this a few days ago?

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      Oh right, the war in Gaza is completely Biden’s fault and not the product of decades of politics coming to a head in a way the US can’t explicitly control. I think I saw Biden out there personally shooting Palestinian children in the face 🙄

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      That’s patently not true. The HR department has dumped two choices in your lap and you literally have to choose between them.

      It sucks, and is something we absolutely need to fix in the future… but ignoring reality won’t help anyone.

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        we absolutely need to fix in the future…

        You do realize this is exactly the problem and the reason half of eligible voters sit at home on election day. Keep putting up shitty geriatrics and see how long it takes you to reach your future fix.

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        ^ What happens to a mfer with no concept of class consciousness and a lack of understanding of the present dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. The only way forward that doesn’t involve fascist genocide is the creation of a true workers’ party. Yes, the implication is that a workers’ party would be for the complete dissolution of the United States, but that is what is needed right now.

        If you disagree, you may as well tell any of the families of the 35k ethnically cleaned Palestinians that they must indefinitely wait until you get your genocidal ecocidal government (which was devised only 4 generations ago by rich, white, landowning slavers) sorted out.

        “Just hold on folks! We are still figuring this out!”. Bullshit. We tried our experiment, and we quickly failed. The backslide into genocidal fascism has begun. The only recourse is to abandon American electoralism, read Marx, and start planning for what comes next. We have a moral obligation to look at our genocidal nation and call a spade a spade. Dispelling the chauvinist myth that we as Americans protect the world and dispense limitless freedom to all is one of the first baby steps from liberal to leftist, and admittedly it’s not easy.

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        It sucks, and is something we absolutely need to fix in the future…

        But we’re literally picking the new head of the HR department. And every head of HR before this person was picked this way, because of the policies set by that HR department. Like, the only way you could change this rule would be for 37 of our 50 departments to come together and agree to change the rules as part of a company wide convention. And all of them run their HR systems the same way, so that doesn’t look too likely.

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          Start at the bottom and work your way up. It will take a long time. Meaningful change always will. But we got Fargo and St. Louis using Approval Voting and proved a small group of motivated individuals can change their government.

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            Start at the bottom and work your way up.

            Or just become a Senator at the age of 30 by selling out to your state’s massive insurance and legal community.