• Neato@ttrpg.network
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    8 months ago

    It’s a “no true scotsman” but those aren’t leftists. Leftists don’t praise and try to emulate autocrats. Those are people pretending to be leftists who are trying to co-opt, radicalize, or confuse leftists.

    Leftism by definition is opposed to authoritarians.

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      8 months ago

      You mean like Hamas? Leftists have this oppression totempole, and anyone being “oppressed” are automatically good.

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      8 months ago

      The modern definition of leftism is socialism and co. And socialism is inherently authoritarian.

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      8 months ago

      Explain the absolute takes on the Russian war by Jeremy Corbin and Noam Chomsky. They have encouraged Ukraine to surrender, which is tacit approval of Russia’s invasion by giving Russia everything that they ever asked for

      Explain Hassan shilling for Hamas

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            8 months ago

            Neither of those say what you say they said…

            Corbin says he encourages “peace” efforts rather than war efforts, which you know duh everybody does.

            Chompsky is similar, why or rather now are you twisting either of those in your head to mean something else?

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              What the actual fuck? War efforts are what’s needed. Because you know, people are dying because of Russian bombs. It’s shooting back that saves lives. Defending their viewpoints is basically tacit approval of wars of aggression.

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                8 months ago

                Notice I didn’t take a stance I simply stated that what you said that article contained is not in fact the truth.

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                  People who advocate for peace with Russia are in fact advocating for Ukrainian surrender. That’s because Russia’s condition IS surrender. If they had more modest goals, that would be one thing

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            He is just saying Ukraine can’t win

            I guess it’s just a pure coincidence that it’s now perfectly clear that Ukraine can’t win, eh?

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              8 months ago

              Ukraine actually can’t lose as long as it has the support of the free world

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      8 months ago

      Some are pretending to be leftists. But some just have a Manichean view of the world that they can’t shake. Some people change labels when they convert from fundamentalist religion or blind nationalism, but don’t change the framework of their views.

      No shit, I have seen people outright denying Houthi atrocities because “They wouldn’t do something like that!”

      Because the Houthis are opposed to The Great Satan™, they’re automatically rewritten in these people’s minds to be at least acceptable in every facet of their existence.