• kromem@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Similar to the reports of Russian soldiers putting plastic pipes up people’s butts to feed up razor wire to pull out slowly after the pipe is removed, or China putting electric shock sticks up people’s butts among the Uyghur camps.

      Humans suck.

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        Or Americans hooking Abu Gharib prisoners up to car batteries.

        Or Saudis dismembering Jamal Khashoggi with a bone saw while still alive.

        Or Italy’s practice of deliberately sinking refugee floatillas in the Mediterranean so as to deny migrants asylum claims.

        Humans suck.

        #NotAllHumans

        We know and care about these atrocities because we don’t all suck. But there is definitely an economic structure in place that rewards this behavior as well as a fascist media apparatus that both censors and celebrates it.

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        Source for the razor wire claim? Seems like obvious war time propaganda to me and I can’t find anything online.

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            Over the top descriptions of torture between an alleged soldier and his mother that seem almost scripted, published by the Ukraine military. I’m going to call this a maybe at best.

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              So when accounts of torture fit with the narrative you like, they are credible, but when they don’t fit with the narrative you like, they are not?

              Was the video of castration by Russian military of a detainee also just faked propaganda?

              Was the UN report that Russian forces tortured prisoners to death also fake?

              It’s not exactly like this phone call goes against a pattern of behavior for Russian forces.

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                In time of war you’d do best to question news when it’s reported only by one of the sides and not by an independent source. Maybe it’s true, but militaries don’t value truth during war.

                I wouldn’t trust the Russian military either

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                  “Almost every single one of the Ukrainian POWs we interviewed described how Russian servicepersons or officials tortured them during their captivity, using repeated beatings, electric shocks, threats of execution, prolonged stress positions and mock execution. Over half of them were subjected to sexual violence,” said Danielle Bell, the head of HRMMU.

                  And these are the accounts from the prisoners that were released.

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                    I’m not denying Russian atrocities full stop I’m just wary of these kinds of very specific and evocative claims. It’s “beheaded babies” level for me.

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                    using repeated beatings, electric shocks, threats of execution, prolonged stress positions and mock execution. Over half of them were subjected to sexual violence,”

                    Sooo… basically just how the Russian military treats it’s conscripts in general.